On 09/05/15, Ward Dossche said the following...
 
 WD> I'm going to say something remarkable ...
 WD>  
 WD> AI> I don't know if any change to policy will ever come to pass.
 WD>  
 WD> I don't really have that much of a problem with P4.

Neither do I. Fidonet / Policy4 has never impacted me in a way that wasn't
positive. Some people seem to feel that P4 was foisted on them and maybe they
have a point. I don't mind rewriting or amending that policy and putting it to
a vote. Putting in place something people do want and can have a say in and
feel a part of.
  
 WD> The real problem is how several of the articles are interpreted by the
 WD> different zones.
  
 WD> Yes it has been written by and for Z1 and is interpreted by and to
 WD> benefit Z1 as well as to accomodate its operational environment. Should
 WD> we re-write it, it's not going to change anything.

Probably not, but if it was re-writen or amended and voted on then people
wouldn't drag it through the mud as if it was the problem. :)

 WD> Well, Z2 is interpreting it also for its own benefit and to accomodate
 WD> its own operational environment. This has worked for 20+ years and it's 
 WD> not as if we're coming to a screeching halt right now.
 WD>  
 WD> P4 has not been developed with the aspect of "international" in mind nor
 WD> "perhaps there is a different way to do it" nor "perhaps it's not done
 WD> like that 'overthere'". Just my way or the highway ...

Could it be that they created a lot of politics hoping to avoid politics?
  
 WD>      I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America,
 WD> and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God,
 WD> indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 WD>  
 WD> Under God? 

In the 1800's maybe.

 WD> Indivisible?

They argue a lot amongst themselves.. but I think they are a pretty
indivisible bunch. At least when they need to be.

 WD> Liberty and Justice for all?

That is where I want to be. It appears to be a long road..

 WD> But if it works for them, it's none of my damned business and so it's
 WD> none of Z1's damned business how we interprete P4.

OK, cooperative anarchy it is!
 
 WD> Let's not forget that the USA are the only nation on Earth, so far, that
 WD> managed to land a man on the Moon and bring him back alive. It's quite an
 WD> engineering feat and what a space-program. Of course there's the minor
 WD> detail that the design team which produced the Atlas rocket was headed
 WD> by a Belgian by the name of Charly Bossaerts, or that the Saturn rocket
 WD> that lifted the payload for translunar injection was developed by
 WD> Wehrner Von Braun, a German and prominent ex-Nazi, that the electronics
 WD> of the Apollo cabin were built with components designed by an Hungarian
 WD> etc... 

Except for the indians most people in America (or Canada) have roots to go
back somewhere around your part of the world (give or take 5 or 10 thousand
kilometers!) Who a man is is more important than his nationality, sexual
preference, religion, hair colour etc.

 WD> People also accept that it took 7 million dollar to develop a pen that
 WD> would write in weightlessness ... the Russians used a 10 cent pencil.

There are solutions, and then there are solutions.. :)
    
 WD> Once everybody gets over that, we can go and have a beer. Otherwise I'm
 WD> wasting my time here.

We better go have a beer regardless if folks manage to get over what needs
getting over or not.. ;)
 

 Ttyl :-),
         Al

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