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echo: fidopols
to: Philip Lozier
from: Bob Short
date: 2002-09-12 12:34:50
subject: Re: Current P5 draft

On 12 Sep 02  06:17:38, Philip Lozier said the following to All:

PL>  * Forwarded from "R13_ELECTION"
PL>  * Original by Philip Lozier (1:267/169)

Nice to see you're spreeading this among your peers.  :)

PL> Aside from my previous concerns about low percentages required to 
PL> ratify any future changes, section 8.7 disturbs me greatly as well.

Nothing in 8.7 was changed, except the pointers to other pertinent
sections.  Those had to be modified to reflect the modified sections
in 8.1 - 8.6.  The section dealing with impeachment remains intact.
Read both copies (ours and P4), and you'll see.

PL> As all can see, this section allows for a process to impeach a zone coordin
PL> -without- a policy violation.  In my oppinion, this is riciculous, and open
PL> the doors for a free for all on ZC's.

We are not about to step into that arena for in amendment proposal.
That, as many other parts, will have to wait.

PL> In the beginning, the -simple- policy changes that were proposed seemed lik
PL> productive thing for Fidonet, however, with these afterthoughts being added
PL> what was originaly proposed, I no longer se it as such.

The original "simple" change was just that... simple.  It was my
considered opinion that it would have proved only a token change.
If one is to go about making a change to an antiquitated document,
one should attempt to make actual improvements.  We propose to do
this by making policy itself easier to change (read /possible/).
What good would it do to limit it to the Snooze section?

PL> I would urge everybody to cast a negative vote against this draft if it is 
PL> indeed what is put out for a vote.

Can you be more specific on the parts to which disagree?

Bob

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