JC> The bottom line.... Laws are put into place by people that have been 
select
  > by the majority of the community to represent them. It doesn't matter if 
we
  > are talking about the county, state or federal government. Anyone that 
choo
  > to violate a law (good, bad or indifferent) is engaging in an unlawful 
ct
  > against the _rest_ of the community.
That's true in the U.S. where we operate by representative government.
And all the people engaged in this discussion at the current time *are*
in the U.S.
JC> That's why there are laws that say everyone that want's to drive in MY
  > community MUST have a driver's license and a licensed automobile. Because 
i
  > is MY community. If you don't want to have a license, the solution is 
ERY
  > simple. Don't drive in MY community. Ancient societies used to exile 
people
  > for not obeying the "laws" of the "community". Nowadays, we just pay 
axes
  > to hire people (from our community) to enforce the laws our elected
  > representatives make.
Grin!  I'm glad you're here, Jim.  It's good to have someone who can
explain my side so succintly (and probably not even misspell succinctly
while he's at it).  I definitely want driver's licences in my community.
And I want to be able to revoke them, too.  Hey, not only did I have a
car totaled by a hit and run.  I had a nephew killed by a drunk driver.
The kid was skateboarding beside the road, and the driver went off the
road and hit and killed him.  I really don't want that guy driving
around in the future, hitting and killing other little kids.  Many laws
have really good reasons behind their existence.
JC> SB> obeyed.  But if you are going to disobey a law, because you consider
  > SB> the law to be wrong, you need to accept the fact that you are
  > SB> committing a criminal act, and be willing and ready to pay the price 
of
  > SB> that criminal act.
JC> Again, that is a criminal act against the "community", NOT the 
vernment.
Grin!  True!
JC> SB> As for those camps, rumor has it they are already in place.
JC> What camps? Where? In the west? West of where?
Jim, those camps that exist already are also always west of wherever the
person who tells me about it lives at.  Around here, some folks swear
they're in western Pennsylvania.   I correspond with someone in Western
Pennsylvania who swears they're out in Indiana somewhere.  The only
reason *you* don't know about them is because the only place west of you
is the Pacific Ocean.  (G)  Maybe the camps they're going to send you to
are in Japan somewhere.  (g)
                              Sondra
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