Hi Michiel!

Thursday July 13 2006, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Vladimir Donskoy:

 MV> You still here? Good. ;-)

I was make election of NC 2:5030 last 2 months as RO and have no more time.

Result : the network have near 540 nodes, and I receive 150 voices. This is
high percent :-) !

Compare to percent of our referendum about Z7... And I think - NC's work
near for sysops his net, so - percent of (active) votes will high.

 MV>>> At first I thought the Z7 advocates had a point. But them I
 MV>>> realised creating a Z7 would not solve the problem they claimed
 MV>>> exists. Add to that that several solutions were offered: Region
 MV>>> "ZMH", Net level "ZMH". Flags, etc ,
etc, but none of these got
 MV>>> any serious response. This lead me to suspect that the alleged
 MV>>> ZMH problem was just an excuse.

 VD>> You forget one more case: suspend ZMH on Zone-level. As ZMH
 VD>> established by ZC, he can establish it time as "worktime of any
 VD>> node".

 MV> I did not forget. That is covered by Russel's local time flags and by my
 MV> NOZMH flag proposals.

Yes, but Ward is not working on it...

 MV>>> If it ever was a problem, it is a problem that is dying out
 MV>>> anyway. FidoNet is slowly shifting from POTS to IP. More and more
 MV>>> are shifting to a permanent connection to the InterNet and so ZMH
 MV>>> is no longer an issue for them.

 MV>>> ZMH is a non problem.  Trying to solve non problems is a waste of
 MV>>> time.

 VD>> Yes, for you (and other sysops of you area) it is not a problem.

 MV> It is a problem, but it is a small problem that is managable. Plus of
 MV> course that there is always the alternative of running the system as a
 MV> point if one is unable or unwilling to observe ZMH.

Point have no rights, he have no response even for his traffic! So - sysop
not like down his status to point...

 VD>> But for us it is a problem - live on the law (Policy, with ZMH) or on
 VD>> the real work (ZMH == Node work mail time).

 MV> You lost credibility on that arguments with your z6 dual listing stunt.

Our RC have dual listing too - do you think about his unauthority? Hi win
elections on our region, and he was the NC of 2:5020 formerly (i.e. more
50% of active sysops of our region are upholding him).

I have same authority at our region too (I was NC 2:5055 for 2 times and I
still NEC of this now, if speak about official "hats")...

So - you can speak about your opinition, and may be - about opinition of
other world, but sysops of our region is not agree with you.

 MV> Anyway, it is good to see you are still here. Some evil tongues claimed
 MV> you all had left because you did not get your chocolate cake. Seems they
 MV> were once more trying to fabricate facts....

What?! I never speak about want to left FIDO! I still very active in the
our region, and I have no time for work both our elections and discuss on
this echo (and I must to work on job - at real life, it need same time
too).


Regards, Vladimir Donskoy

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