*** Quoting Dan Ceppa from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

-> On 04 Jul 06  09:20:05, Carol Shenkenberger got back to Dan Ceppa 
-> Re: Z7 again

 DC>   And, just who exactly voted for or against the proposal?
DC>  
 DC>  MvdV> Does not matter how. It *was* rejected. Live with it.
DC>  
 DC> Secrecy is such a lovely thing.  


 CS> No secrecy on this.  You've seen several ZC's say the same thing. I
 CS> can look back at my archived mail to see it all and that wont change
 CS> it. 

DC> It was Mikey that stated the secrecy part.  I only ran with his 
DC> version of the story.  

Then there was an error.  Happens and I wont bug you about it again.
AFAICT, ¨Ward's been straight up on what he's been saying unless i missed
something.  I ¨dont think I have, but I'm human.  Janis, Russell, Malcolm,
or Renato ¨can corrdct me if I missed something and pretty sure they all
have this echo ¨turned on.

DC> It wasn't low turnout.  But, I do agree that a future poll needs 
DC> to narrow down the options.  As it is, the results do state that 
DC> some action is needed.  The lowest response was for the option 
DC> of doing nothing.  

It was low turnout.  However, no matter how low, all reports of it were
passed ¨to the ZCC echo as best as possible.  The initial one by Ward who
forwarded ¨what he had, and a later one that matched but was a bit more
specific.  Both ¨were the same as posted here in the IC echo.

I may be wrong here, (can go back and check) but I think Renato was the
first ¨one to say it was just too small of a number based on the size of
R50.  The ¨'referendum' was as widely sent as they could, with reasonable
expectation that ¨all in R50 and those 2 other regions we'd nominally call
'Russian speaking' had ¨it in their netmail as well as sysop echos multiple
times.  Not ONE R50 sysop ¨has denied this.  So, tell me why a paultry 15%
replied with something like 8% ¨wanting a change and 7% bothering to say
'no thanks'?

I cantr imagine anything worse, than splintering the Russian sysops against
¨their will.  Let *them* decide this.
                                       xxcarol

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