Hi Michiel,


   Quoting: Michiel van der Vlist to Herman Neut
 Date/Time: 14-Jul-06 / 23:25:04
   Subject: Z7 again

 MvdV> 14 Jul 06 18:29, you wrote to Dan Ceppa:

 HN>> Z7 is already in use (non-fidonet zone)

 MvdV> Indeed. Anoter reason why it is a bad idea.

 HN>> Don't see the real problem. I expect next Z2C is Russian
 HN>> (2:5020/715 perhaps?)

 MvdV> May be there wont be a next ZC.

That is a real possible situation.
Year 1995 will _never_ come back.

 MvdV> I think the best idea is to do away with the zones alltogether.
 MvdV> We never really needed then anyway end the implementation was
 MvdV> shakey. lets get rid of them

Indeed, there is no need for anymore. Not today and over 5 years not any
reason.

 MvdV> 1) Get rid of Region 2:55. we do not nd an IP only umbrella net
 MvdV> any more. That takes care of the duplicate regions

Agree. In the new nodelist you can see I'm IP only node in R28.
And you will find that more nodes change to IP only.
The reality is that today more and more people have *DSL internet
connection.


 MvdV> 2) Get rid of the duplicate nets by rnumbereing the few
 MvdV> remaining.

 MvdV> 3) Get rid of the zones. For technical compatibility ever node
 MvdV> will carry the zone number 1. No more ZCs, no more ZCC. We will
 MvdV> hold a one sysop one vote election for the INC (International
 MvdV> Nodelist Clerk) Hios sole responsibility will be to maintain the
 MvdV> nodelist

Agree.


 HN>> And don't forget, Z2-R50 is shrinking too,

 MvdV> Of course they are shrinking, Just like every other region has
 MvdV> been slinking since 1996

 HN>> nevertheless the  many 'dead wood'

 MvdV> And of course there is dead wood. 30% is a conservative
 MvdV> estimate.

 HN>> I can see the flow in several R50 echoes. Just a fraction
 HN>> compared with 4 years ago.

 MvdV> They are going through the same process as we did. They are just
 MvdV> lagging five years behind

Agree.

 HN>> But we are 'die-hards' aren't we? ;-)

 MvdV> Thats it.

 MvdV> The best thing one can do to keep FidoNet going is to just hang
 MvdV> on and keep writing, Like you and me are doing...

Agree.


 HN>> At the time R28 has gone, I ask for a nodenumber in R50 ;-) No
 HN>> problem with 'Fido Over IP'

 MvdV> The problem is that I can not read Russian.

But Russians can read English too. A few can even read/write Dutch;-)

 MvdV> I will opt for a node number in a net in Germany I think. The
 MvdV> closest is net 2448. I am not sure Bob Bashe will have me
 MvdV> though... ;-

I bet he will. Without any problem;-)


Best Regards,
      Herman Neut

 e-mail: h.neutnospam{at}hccnet.nl

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