DF> I don't know if my messages are getting out... will ask my question 
again.
 DF> Does anyone know anything about knobby trees? ... Any help would be
 DF> greatly appreciated...
Well, Debbie Ford, I wish I *could* be of help to you about your "knobby 
trees" (where we live, we go to great lengths to keep our trees *free* of 
"knobs"   :)  but I *can* tell you that your "messages are getting out"... 
(at least in *this* 'echo'   :)
cheers,
WL Sakowski
---
---------------