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to: John Cuccia
from: Robert G Lewis
date: 2003-03-05 17:33:46
subject: Re: Freedom of Speech?

From: "Robert G Lewis" 

I'd be surprised if the local political establishment favored the Mall.

http://www.capital.net/~force/ae67cro.html

http://bettersyracuse.tripod.com/albany.html

Apparently they have had an ongoing dispute over taxes.

Do not know how accurate this is but they have removed protesters before
http://nyc.indymedia.org/archive/features/2002/12/2002-12.html
down on the page
Peaceful Protesters Pulled from "Public" Property Approximately
20 demonstrators were evicted last Saturday from Crossgates Mall in
Guilderland, New York, a suburb of Albany. The activists walked peacefully
through the mall for about an hour on this crowded shopping Saturday just
before Christmas, wearing signs that read "Don't Bomb Iraq" and
"Try Something Different: Peace on Earth."

They were then approached by police, told their signs were
"offensive" and threatened with arrest before being herded out of
the mall and into security vehicles, which escorted them to their own cars.

Although I do not find Peace on Earth to be offensive the Mall's owners do
seem to object. And it is their legal right to ask the people to leave, If
they don't then trespassing laws would apply.



Bob Lewis



"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
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> wrote:
>
> >You don't know what you're talking about.  The local press, unlike the
> >slanted Reuters quote,
>
> How do I know that Reuter's slanted and the local press is not?  I'd
> bet that the mall pours lots of money into local coffers and spends
> plenty of advertising money with local newpapers.
>
> At any rate, if the arrestees were harassing people, they should have
> been evicted.  If not, then the mall/guards were in the wrong.
>
> >Also, Crossgates Mall is not a "public place" but
private property and
> >there is plenty of legal precedent to back that distinction up.
>
> You can't refuse to serve people because of religion, gender, race or
> sexual orientation, I do not believe that discrimination based on
> political persuasion is permitted, either.
>
>

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