Hello Herman.

15 Jul 06 11:41, you wrote to me:


 HN>>> Don't see the real problem. I expect next Z2C is Russian
 HN>>> (2:5020/715 perhaps?)

 MvdV>> May be there wont be a next Z2C.

 HN> That is a real possible situation.
 HN> Year 1995 will _never_ come back.

Ah yes, 1995, the top year. 1250 nodes and 5500+ listed points in The
Netherlands only. Indeed, that is history, never to return.

 MvdV>> I think the best idea is to do away with the zones all together.
 MvdV>> We never really needed then anyway end the implementation was
 MvdV>> shakey. Lets get rid of them.

 HN> Indeed, there is no need for anymore. Not today and over 5 years not
 HN> any reason.

Yep. Scrap the zones.

 MvdV>> 1) Get rid of Region 2:55. we do not need an IP only umbrella net
 MvdV>> any more. That takes care of the duplicate regions

 HN> Agree.

Region 2:55 and net 2:550 were created to accomodate IP only nodes that
could not be listed in their geographical nets because some nets - mostly
in R50 - would not accept IP only nodes. That too is history, the IP onlu
bans have been lifted, so no need for net 2:550 and region 2:55. Out with
them.

 HN> In the new nodelist you can see I'm IP only node in R28.

I noticed...

 HN> And you will find that more nodes change to IP only.

My last succesful incoming POTS call was on feb 3rd 2006. Almost 6 month
ago. I came on-line during ZMH on Xmas 1996. I may complete the ten years
if nothing breaks before then. But if I do not get POTS calls any more,
next Xmas sounds good to call it quits here as well far as POTS is
concerned....

 HN> The reality is that today more and more people have *DSL internet
 HN> connection.

Yep. POTS and ISDN are on the way out.

 MvdV>> 2) Get rid of the duplicate nets by renumbereing the few
 MvdV>> remaining.

 MvdV>> 3) Get rid of the zones. For technical compatibility every node
 MvdV>> will carry the zone number 1. No more ZCs, no more ZCC. We will
 MvdV>> hold a one sysop one vote election for the INC (International
 MvdV>> Nodelist Clerk) His sole responsibility will be to maintain
 MvdV>> the nodelist.

 HN> Agree.

To avoid nodelist stuffing, only sysops with listed and functional
connection information will be allowed to run and to vote.

 HN>>> And don't forget, Z2-R50 is shrinking too,

 MvdV>> Of course they are shrinking, Just like every other region has
 MvdV>> been slinking since 1996

 HN>>> nevertheless the  many 'dead wood'

 MvdV>> And of course there is dead wood. 30% is a conservative
 MvdV>> estimate.

 HN>>> I can see the flow in several R50 echoes. Just a fraction
 HN>>> compared with 4 years ago.

Just like what happened here in R28 five years ago....

 MvdV>> The best thing one can do to keep FidoNet going is to just hang
 MvdV>> on and keep writing, Like you and me are doing...

 HN> Agree.

So ratatata tar t ta tat ta..

 HN>>> At the time R28 has gone, I ask for a nodenumber in R50 ;-) No
 HN>>> problem with 'Fido Over IP'

 MvdV>> The problem is that I can not read Russian.

 HN> But Russians can read English too. A few can even read/write Dutch;-)

They are among us... ;-)

 MvdV>> I will opt for a node number in a net in Germany I think. The
 MvdV>> closest is net 2448. I am not sure Bob Bashe will have me
 MvdV>> though... ;-

 HN> I bet he will. Without any problem;-)

Just one problem, he is not IP capable....


Michiel

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