On (08 Jul 03) Donald Tidmore wrote to George Pope...
 DT> > I'm talking about those who stay at level 2 and beat hell out of
 DT> anybody
 DT> > who joins, so they can never build up, and even if they miraculously
 DT> > make it past 2, then the bully gets to beat up on them with
 DT> impunity,
 DT> > because this bully type usually stays in the Inn so can't be
 DT> attacked by
 DT> > the now-higher level player!
 DT>
 DT> This is only thing I could see of interest to me in Lord echo
 DT> currently, to respond about.  I thought it was the sysop's
 DT> responsibility to monitor behavior in the door games they operate?
 DT> And to punish said bullies? So why aren't the sysops doing that in the
 DT> situation you are describing?

Probably because some sysops have a policy of non-interference (since
some users get rather upset by what they deem to as too much
"babysitting" type interference by a sysop!) :|

 DT> The only true way to handle this situation I know from my old BBS days
 DT> of co-sysop-ing and playing Lord is to notify the sysop when someone
 DT> is abusing the Lord game.  Then if the sysop doesn't do anything, it
 DT> is up to the user to decide whether they want anything else to do with
 DT> said BBS.  But every sysop I knew would do something to handle this
 DT> kind of situation, once they knew it existed.

Of course, some users have a fear of coming across as "tattletales". . .
:|  So they just get PO'd then quit in frustration, and the game gets
ruined for everybody, INCLUDING the bully types!

I stay low in a couple games here, but I don't pick on anybody -- I
basically just do it so me & a long-time LORD rival/buddy can duke it
out with impunity, without getting bothered by the others too much!
*LOL*

PDK, the sysop here, once had an ANTI-CHEAT utility installed that
monitored stats and, if a user sat too high in XPs for too long, without
going on to kill the dragon, they got a few days' warning that if they
didn't do it themselves, the utility would advance them ANYWAY,with
whatever penalties the sysop has set (PDK didn't add any penalties (eg.
loss of children, charm, etc.) but had it set to just advance you to
level 1, with Level 1 stats(10, 10(Stick), 10(Shirt)), and give you your
due dragonkill credit. . . :)

I dunno why he took it out, except maybe it started getting overzealous
and penalizing people unreasonably who had no reasonable chance to
advance at the rate it was expecting? :)

The games here are quite good now, just need some more active players...

Come on by:

telnet://milkyway.tzo.com

 DT> Lpedit - the Lord player editor that I finished in January 2003 with
 DT> Charlie Wardick's guidance, will take care of those bullies pretty
 DT> quick. Just select their Lord player record, and give them a "Clean
 DT> Slate", and they lose everything they have.  There are two settings.
 DT> One does the kind of reset that you get when you kill Red Dragon.  The
 DT> other makes them the same as a brand new player.  Up to sysop which
 DT> punishment to use.

Seems kind of similar to what the one we had running here did. . . :)
(but automated)

 DT> Everyone playing the Lord game can see the person was punished for bad
 DT> behavior in the Daily News.  If the punks keep up the bad behavior,
 DT> then it is time for said sysop to kick their sorry butts off of their
 DT> BBS permanently in my opinion.

Sounds reasonable!

In LORD II there used to be a guy who was expert at exploiting all the
IGM bugs to cheat his way to being a superpower & bully, so PDK just set
him up with his own copy of the game, where "anything goes" and any &
all who went in there knows it is an unregulated freeforall (in the
other games, PDK will rebuke/discipline/delete an annoying player, as
needed)

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