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Hello, Roy. You were first to respond. JH> I have (or had) this "Auto Stereo Home Adapter" box, rated at JH> 115VAC, 12-14VDC, 3 amps continuous, 5 amps switching. JH> I ended up blowing it up - - I'll tell about that later. Took it JH> apart, and the only thing in there which could possibly be a JH> rectifier is this lightbulb-looking thing, with 2 bare leads out of JH> the bottom of the glass, and wired to the circuit board. I've seen JH> one of these before, now over 40 years ago, and it was on a little JH> 6V trickle charger, and I ended blowing that sucker up too, while I JH> was still in highschool. JH> My questions - - JH> 1. What the heck are these bulb things, and how much would a JH> replacement for the unit at hand cost? RJT> It looks like a light bulb? Clear glass? Can you describe anything RJT> about the innards? Bulb thing is about 1- 1/2" long and about 3/8" diameter. Clear glass, with kind of a strip of metal looking thing in there maybe about 1/16" wide where you'd expect a filament. It is bent in a "u" shape and maybe total length of that is about 1/2". (ed. note - since you don't seem to know about the kind of unit I'm talking about, you're maybe working toward some sort of a consolation prize) JH> 2. How can a rectifier with only 2 leads give good enough DC to JH> run an auto stereo back in the home, without a lot of hum. RJT> Good question! I probably won't hold that one against you - - after all, lots of "all American five" radios worked ok with only a single wave rectifier. BUT - I still would like to know how these bulb rectifier things with only two leads work. JH> 3. Should I pitch the thing, or could maybe some large diode or JH> diodes be added, which would make it useable again? RJT> Cheap and simple -- get one of those 25A bridges from radio shack, and RJT> bolt that puppy to some metal to draw off heat. I have one PS I built RJT> for a bench supply, uses a 4A transformer and a 3A regulator (TO-3 RJT> package), but the original "6A" rectifier didn't last. So I put one RJT> of those heavier-duty units in there. I shouldn't ever really expect RJT> RS stuff to meet their specs, but it's awfully convenient sometimes. RJT> :-) I'll have to post a circuit diag of the thing and do some more study before I invest to put a bridge rectifier in place of a single wave job. Sounds like new bridge, heatsink, hardware and etc would now cost maybe $10? Mayhap too much of an investment in this oldie. IMO, buying at RS is convenient, but expensive, kinda like buying a large bag of potato chips at a convenience store - pay maybe 3x too much, but instant gratification.. JH> FWIW, in desperation, after probs with the riding mower, I used JH> this unit for a battery charger. It worked OK, and put some charge JH> on that there lead acid battery, but I blew it up and 'let some JH> smoke out" when I tried to crank the mower while this makeshift JH> "charger" was still attached. RJT> Heh. Yep. I was in a hurry to get that mower restarted, and made a big mistake. RJT> I have a number of battery chargers around here that have bad diodes, RJT> probably from similar causes. Though a number of them seem to be rated RJT> for surges of a LOT of amps for fairly short periods of time (30 RJT> seconds or whatever). No rectifier bulbs in there? Best I can tell, these bulb types were superseded by the Selenium type rectifiers by late 1950's to 1960. Maybe before your time? RJT> Speaking of battery chargers, this reminds me of one that my RJT> grandfather used to have. The rectifier in that one did look like a RJT> light bulb, only it also had a wire coming out of the top. That was a RJT> mercury vapor rectifier, and I haven't seen one of those since I was a RJT> kid. RJT> If that's what it is, good luck in finding a replacement. AFAICT, that was the Tungar type which Tom W. mentioned. 3 leads min. Tungar was just a trademark name, by GE or somebody. Pix of those old types fairly easy to find with google search on Inet. With a little research, I see that there was another kind, with tungsten filament and Argon gas, but I still haven't found how any of those may have worked with only two leads exiting the bulb, or if that is what is/was here. - - - JimH. ... "Bother!" said Pooh, as he saw the sparks and smelled the smoke. --- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.32* Origin: Try Our Web Based QWK: DOCSPLACE.ORG (1:123/140) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 123/140 500 106/1 379/1 633/267 |
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