-=> On 08-09-20  12:32,  Gregory Deyss <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-

 GD> Why would the Governor of New York bring people infected w/ Covid into
 GD> a environment such as a nursing home; where people are most susceptible
 GD> and most vulnerable to the covid-19 virus? That was a real bone-head
 GD> move.  

That was apparently done when it looked as if the people being moved
were over COVID, and when their hospital bed was desperately needed for
other patients who were sicker.   After it was realized that "looking
free of symptoms" was not equal to "not infectious" the practice was
canceled.

  DS> over capacity.  We do not have any effective
  DS> treatment pharmaceutical

 GD> Says who? Have you ever seen one of the Presidents covid briefings?
 GD> (apparently not) When the President talks about the massive 
 GD> numbers of PPE, DME
 GD> (Durable Medical Equipment) as well as the enormous stockpile of
 GD> pharmaceuticals on hand.
 
Have you not seen any of the Presidents COVID briefings when he did not
make some sort of exaggerated claim.  Such as "by the end of the week,
we will have 4 million tests" when in fact the number was closer to 4
thousand.  Such as "this malaria drug might cure COVID, what have you
got to lose?" when in fact that drug has not been proven to help, and
has been proven to be fatal for some.  Have you not seen how often he
directly contradicts his scientific experts sitting next to him, leaving
them with attempting to walk back his spurious claims.

 DS>  GD> What did we know when this CHINA Virus first came to here?
 DS> 
 DS> Not much, and the biggest impact came here from Europe.

 GD> Europe? The virus did not originate in Europe. 

I did not say it originated in Europe.  I said that the biggest impact
came here from Europe.  Please read with a little bit of comprehension.

 GD> Everyone (including you) knows that.

Of course I (and you) know that it originated in China, most likely
jumping from animal to human -- as has happened with other virus
infections.

 GD> By the way, I see very clearly what your attempting to do here, fog up
 GD> the issue make it seem unclear and dissolve responsibility from China.

Not at all.  It originated in China.  China did research to identify it.
China took preventive measures to contain it.  China did a much better
job at doing that than the USA.  So did most European countries.
 
 DS> Protesting is a constitutional right.  Rioting is a crime.  Do not
 DS> confuse the two.

 DS> The things you mention are rioting, and are not done by the vast
 DS> majority of the peaceful protesters.  Some of whom were blinded by the
 DS> police.

 GD> First of All: There it is. "The attempt" w/ they are not all bad,
 GD> as if to suggest it is just some rotten apples among the basket..... 
 GD> Typical response from the left, the sad truth is you have no idea how
 GD> many are rotten to the core, but I can guarantee you it is of a far
 GD> greater number then you will say here. These are NOT a few instigators.

Here is a question for you to ponder.  How many protesters were at
Lafayette Square?  How many were doing anything violent?  How many were
just standing there with their hands in the air when the police used
flash bangs and corrosive gas on them as well as hitting with batons?

 GD> Second of All: Not a single one - of these protesters were blinded by
 GD> Police, As the Police do NOT use lasers to blind protesters, if they
 GD> use them at all. 

I did not say that people were blinded with lasers.  They were blinded
with being hit in the eye with a rubber bullet.

 DS> China did not "unleash" Covid-19.  They discovered it.

 GD> Yeah they sure did... and they also did not contain it to China at all
 GD> as people throughout the entire world have succumb to the China Virus
 GD> many have died many more are recovering, You're welcome,  don't mention
 GD> it. 
 GD> By the way,  The use of the word  "Discover"  would NOT be improper. 
 GD> Created would be a far better description to the truth. 
 GD> This was not something that already existed but actually was created
 GD> in lab. 

That is an unverified fake conspiracy rumor.  There is no evidence to
support such a charge.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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