From: "Mark" 

I haven't really kept up with all the nuances, but my sympathies are not
with the prisoners. I think, but am not sure, that we're waiting on the
Supreme Court to rule on whether military tribunals are kosher, if my
recollection is correct I feel quite sure that SCOTUS will find that they
are, then we can get a move on.

In the meantime, I think I understand that the countries of origin, of
these pleasant fellows currently vacationing in Gitmo with 3 squares and
urine free Korans, don't want a damn thing to do with them, so they're in
the Twilight Zone they deserve.


"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
news:448b78c0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Try a realistic scenario. The current strategy to hold people aged from 14
> to 71 without a trial and with no hope of one wasn't viable from the
> start. One main problem was the selection criteria ( mostly lack of it )
> used to send individuals to Guantanimo resulting in a 14 year old
> prisoner. If there is any proof they are terrorists then try them and be
> done with it. This Bush/Cheney abuse of any form of justice is
> reprehensible.
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:448b753c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>  So their motives aren't clear to you. They win then,
just as they
>> planned, so let's bring them on over to the USA, read them their rights,
>> give them social security numbers, some spending money, and turn them
>> loose... 
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:448b72a7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4245354.stm
>>> Men in prison are five times more likely to commit suicide than those in
>>> the general population, a Lancet online study has found.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>> news:448b6c54$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Seems pretty obvious to me. They (the prisoners) know that
there is a
>>>> lot of noise out there about how Gitmo should be closed, they know
>>>> further that a few suicides will help the cause of those
that want it
>>>> closed, so they do it -- not as glorious as blowing up
themselves and a
>>>> bunch of innocent bystanders in a market somewhere, but still
>>>> contributes to the cause of defeating the west.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:448b626e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> The Admiral really needed to go into detail after a
statement like
>>>>> that otherwise he starts looking like the military
equivalent of Ann
>>>>> Coulter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert G Lewis"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:448b6024$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>> news:448b5bdd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>I would guess depression due to indefinite
incarceration rather than
>>>>>>>an 'act of warfare'. I wonder of the Adm Harris
gave that explanation
>>>>>>>with a straight face
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060610/ts_nm/security_guantanamo_dc_7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Three foreign prisoners were found dead on
Saturday after hanging
>>>>>>> themselves with clothing and bedsheets in the
first deaths at the
>>>>>>> U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, since
the prison opened in
>>>>>>> January 2002, U.S. defense officials said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Navy Rear Adm. Harry Harris, commander of
Guantanamo, told a news
>>>>>>> conference the suicides were an act of warfare.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "They are smart. They are creative, they
are committed. They have no
>>>>>>> regard for life, neither ours nor their own. I
believe this was not
>>>>>>> an act of desperation, but an act of
asymmetrical warfare waged
>>>>>>> against us," Harris said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Facing indefinite detention with none of the
rights afforded formal
>>>>>>> prisoners of war or criminal suspects in the
U.S. justice system,
>>>>>>> dozens of the detainees have undertaken hunger
strikes and attempted
>>>>>>> suicide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is an interesting viewpoint. Would be nice to
see an explanation
>>>>>> of what he meant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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