-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 WC>> The blasted computer running Win XP at a GHz with cable
 WC>> modem is three times slower than my 66 Mhz 486 running
 WC>> Windows 3.1 and a 28,800 dialup!!!



 CA> OK ... I tried www.gist.com using W31 Opera v3.62 and it loaded
 CA> in 23 seconds but the TV listings display was skewed and parts
 CA> were unreadable (offscreen to the right). I found this in the
 CA> source code (HTML) of that page:

 My scroll bar in NS 408 handled that but I've set
 the number of programs displayed to max.
 No other problems with NS 4.08 on a DOS win 3.1 machine
 with JAVAscript disabled, my default.
 Lots of trouble on Win XP on a GHz processor :-(
 
 CA> 

 CA> You can easilly see by this they are 'sniffing' to determine
 CA> what OS and what browser I am using. 
 
How, just save the source in Composer?

 CA> This is incorrect, btw,
 CA> Opera v3.62 should be ID'd as Mozilla 3 not 4. Other javascript
 CA> added to the page changed names when I tried using the unix
 CA> LYNX text-only browser. When accessing via LYNX I get:

 CA> 

I cannot go in LINKS as I've made the bookmark.htm automatically
log on my preferences and have long since
forgotten my user name and password there :-)
I can see the entry screen but none of my selections.

 CA> This line is in the same location as the one above but
 CA> indicates the LYNX browser has been 'sniffed'. The other
 CA> included javascript name changes to 'breadcrumbs' which gives
 CA> you an idea of the maturity of the persons writing the HTML
 CA> code to refer to text-only as 'bread crumbs'?

 NS 4.08 works fine with JAVAscript disabled but it does do that doule
 load crap you spoke of.

 CA> Netscape v4.08 did load the page with no problems the first
 CA> time but would not load the page again nor refresh the page?

Likely you have to log on and create an account with preferences.

 CA> When I tried using IEx v3.0f the screen just sat there no page
 CA> display was sent back to my browser at all. 
 
That's how I tried to enter with my landlady's 1GHz H.P.
with XP and Explorer, no joy.

 CA> My second attempt
 CA> using LYNX also delivered no page display but the first and
 CA> third did? I would say children have written their 'sniffer'
 CA> and their HTML and the website is somewhat fubar'd? There is
 CA> nothing there that requires this degree of complexity, it's
 CA> just a waste of time/money to write a website this way.

 CA> This is not to say XP is perfect or wonderful, only that you
 CA> happened to select a fubar'd website as a test. 
 
Neighbor works for BATF in a computer administrator and trouble
shotting capacity. He does noot endorse XP for a machine capable
of less than 1.7 GHz and preferes 2K Pro by a wide magine...
of course he's very well financially renumerated by his 
choice of O.S..

 CA> My daughter has
 CA> been writing websites for several years now and I assist when
 CA> she is on overload. My opinion of what is 'fubar' is somewhat
 CA> of a professional opinion?

 CA> Try using http://tv.yahoo.com/ and you will get a fast,
 CA> efficient, useful display for local or cable (your choice). The
 CA> link to this TV page (and more) is setup on my default browser
 CA> homepage at:

I already use Yahoo to some extend and unaware of that feature
will explore it, thanks.

 CA> I do think everyone using XP has mentioned it does take awhile
 CA> to come alive, yes.

In my experience it never did... completely destroyed any
advantage offered by a cable versus dialup connection.
 
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