"Jim McGinn"  wrote in message
>
> Going back to your scoops analogy, would you agree that the scoop is
> what physically selected the beans.  The physical cause was the scoop.
>  The physical cause was not, "chance."  Do you agree?
>
Of course, and which beans end up in the scoop depends on how they are
distributed in the bucket, the angle at which the scoop is inserted, etc. It
is impossible for the person harvesting the beans and placing them in the
bucket to predict which will be scooped out and which will be left.
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