21 Jul 08 16:40, Ward Dossche wrote to Dale Shipp:


 DS>> WD> It is remarkable that so many people take things so
 DS>> WD> personal. I don't even remember what it was about.

 DS>> If everyone who had a disagreement with someone left fidonet because
 DS>> of it, none of us would still be here:-}}

 WD> That is correct. For quite some time I am convinced that people don't
 WD> leave because of a dissagreement otherwise Roy would've been here all
 WD> alone for years already.

Actually, the nature of your position in Z2 and the likes that the person
who left was in Z7 probably had something to do with it. I don't have the
weight of the IC or ZC position behind me, pushing people to the brink.

Some predictions are so accurate.

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 From : Bud Jamison                  19 Jul 98  20:31:37
 To   : All                                            20 Jul 98  07:09:10
 Subj : Fidonet Region 10 Sysop's: conspiracy

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Since David posted about this here, and I'nm sure only a few people have
seen this, I'll post it for all.  I will NOT reveal who it came from, but
I expect at least a few will recognize the style....

(and I'm NOT saying he's completely wrong either!)
--------------------------------------

They win.

Satti bent over.

There's an interesting documentation of what Region 12, and Net 163 in
particular,
have in mind for FidoNet, and it isn't good.

Fido was _supposed_ to be a mix of both social *and* technical
aspects...that was what I was working for, and if anything, held back
quite a few from going too far.

Read the site...lemme dig it up...

http://www.carleton.ca/~jweston/papers/0992.dod

The specifics referenced to Herriot/Logger make it clear what the intent
is all
about...to turn Fido solely into a social matter, rather than one open to
_all_.

Satti is effectively gone.

Satti has been passing along information from BK to Jared, apparently all
along.

And now, with his effective "blessing", they will likely put in Jeff
"Jesus" Christ in as R10C, and we will once more have a moron pushing for
a "decent, Christian region" like he did the last time.

Ruth and her sycophants are pushing to remove all the NCs who either sent
in the PC or voted for Bob.  Brenda apparently has some relationship with
Hallford, and he got the names of who voted for BK from her.

Region 10 will be purged, and then...they will go after Region 11, giving
an absolute majority of the RCC to the control of Souvestre.  Hinton will
be removed as well...that will be the 'warning'.

Souvestre wanted to get rid of Bob because someone broke faith and let
him know what was being intended...the idea was to try and set up a
non-commercial backbone that Souvestre could not control.

Since Satti did not do as Souvestre asked, which was to appoint Adrian
Walker as ZEC, Satti has been targetted for removal.

Once he is out as ZC, Dossche will then make the claim that Satti is no
longer eligible to be IC, a point which Dallas Hinton actually stupidly
agreed with Bodger on.  With Bodger and Hinton representing "both sides"
of the issue, Dossche will have a good case.

IC Dossche, ZC Bodger, and don't be surprised if Adrian Walker "decides"
to come back and become the new ZEC.

Herriot/Logger thnks that Dossche is sweetness and light...he hasn't
bothered to look and see the side of Dossche that he shows to his
enemies.  In place of a 'no-rules, happy anarchy', Dossche will institute
a firm and iron rule...one only has to ask the nodes in "Zone 7" about
their constant  efforts to be set apart from Zone 2.

Interesting how we never see _those_ election results, no?

There was a chance to save FidoNet, and get some of the old guard
programmers to be involved in moving us to the InterNet, but Satti caving
in has effectively killed that.

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 WD> The dissagreement is merely the 'justification', not the 'reason'.

Wrong.

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