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to: Robert Sayre
from: Charles Angelich
date: 2003-01-04 23:40:00
subject: Word Trade Center

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Hello Robert - 

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CA>> There are mandated punishments for even planning to commit
CA>> certain crimes. Planning a bank robbery or hiring an
CA>> assassin are crimes in themselves. We just didn't carry
CA>> that conept far enough to cover other crimes. 

RS> And, I believe the opposite. I don't believe that thoughts
RS> should/could be criminal. 

Not _thoughts_. Planning is the second stage. An attempt to
make a thought into a reality. 

RS> What makes banks so special? Just another case of buying
RS> the right people off to get their "special treatment", IMO. 

Crimes against property are punished _much_ more severly than
crimes against persons. The rich want us to leave their stuff
right where it is. 

RS> Hiring an assasin is different in that you've already
RS> committed murder. If you have no more steps to complete
RS> before the murder occurs, you've committed the act as an
RS> acomplice, at the very least. 

Exactly so. An attempt to bring a thought into the realm of
reality. 

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CA>> It has been proven many many times that punishment does
CA>> not prevent crime. Increasing the punishment has
CA>> occasionally seen an increase in crime. There is no direct
CA>> correlation between the two. 

RS> I can't argue this as an absolute; but, it usually does
RS> reduce crime. Most times, when the punishment is reduced or
RS> eliminated the associated crimes go up. 

No. If you check up on this you will find this is not what
happens. 

RS> I wish I knew how to correct it; but, it seems there are
RS> always some people who will do wrong to others no matter
RS> what. 

True, because their ancestors were allowed to breed. 

We breed 2nd generation SS troops in North America. 

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CA>> It might require some fine tuning here and there but I am
CA>> tired of seeing victims of persons everyone knew was going
CA>> to commit the crime eventually but no one was allowed to
CA>> interfere. 

RS> I understand this; but, I don't have the "right" answer. 

Nor do I. I'm just willing to try something different. 

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RS> Sometimes change makes it worse instead of better. 

Almost always. Change is the destroyer of all things. 

RS> I'd rather stay with the known until I'm fairly satisfied
RS> that the change is likely to make an improvement. 

That would be like trying to be comfortable in a prisoner of
war camp instead of escaping. I'd rather escape. 

RS> Perhaps, small scale experiments could help to speed up the
RS> process? 

RS> Nah. What works is often ignored anyway, and what doesn't
RS> work is perpetrated permanently. :^( 

RS> I don't have the "right" answer(s). 

I'm not so jaded as to think that I do either and no one will
ever put me in a position to find out. I'm just hypothesizing. 

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