-=> On 03-02-98  10:19, Mike Angwin did testify and affirm <=-
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 RC> All of which are a result of that individual's personal
 RC> choice - no one else's. 
 
 MA> A choice to starve and live in a perpetual state of
 MA> poverty, or to take risks, struggle against seemingly
 MA> unsurmountable odds, and do all that can be done to have a
 MA> better life. 
Irrelevant to the point: it is *his* choice.
 MA> I am remined of those who aided escaping slaves along the
 MA> underground railroad talking to those given the task of
 MA> returning them to their owners. I can well imagine such
 MA> words being said. 
 
 RC> Oh? Which illegal aliens were brought to this country in
 RC> chains and against their will?
 
 MA> No not brought in in chains, just as fleeing slaves did not
 MA> flee to free states in chains, but, like we once captured
 MA> fleeing slaves, chained them, and forced them back into the
 MA> chains of slavery, we are now capturing those fleeing
 MA> hopelessness, chaining them, and forcing them back into the
 MA> chains of hopelessness.
Nice hyperbole, but irrelevant to the facts.
 MA> In both cases, those seeking hope and liberty, followed the
 MA> nothern star in hopes of realizing their dreams. In both
 MA> cases, those who wrap themselves in unjust and inhumane
 MA> law, armed and deadly, stand in their way. 
Again, more hyperbole. The liberality and openness of US
immigration policies are exceeded by very few countries. 
 RC> Your hyperbole has exceeded the bounds of rationality on
 RC> this subject. 
 MA> From the perspective of the bounty hunter I suppose it
 MA> does.
Bounty hunter? Hardly. Just as *they* expect me to obey the
laws of *their* countries when I visit, I expect *them* to
obey our laws (which are on the whole, far more liberal
than their own).
 MA> From the perspective of the man, woman, or child, being
 MA> tracked by armed men with dogs as they desperately seek
 MA> refuge from the torment that has been their life in the
 MA> lands of the north where liberty is said to flourish, I
 MA> suggest the differences are insignifigant. 
It always easier to flee than to fight... but it tends to
become a habit. Just as their first act in this country is
to disobey the law. Good precedent. NOT!
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