From: Gary Wiltshire 

You're still missing my point.  "Passive voice" is a grammatical
term attached to a particular grammatical construction.  There is nothing
in passive voice in the cite from the Constitution.

On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:16:59 +0100, "Paul Ranson"
 wrote:

>The action is the whole 'law respecting an established religion...' etc.
>
>So turning round the preamble isn't (IMO) sufficient.
>
>Paul
>
>"Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
>news:eej89v4u2emd4u2oenbua4m2u8830cld52{at}4ax.com...
>> ACTIVE:  I saw him.
>> PASSIVE:  He was seen by me.
>>
>> ACTIVE:  Congress shall make no law ...
>> PASSIVE:  No law shall be made by Congress.
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:53:21 +0100, "Paul Ranson"

>> wrote:
>>
>> >I see no difference between your suggested passive amendment and the
>actual
>> >one.
>> >
>> >Paul
>> >
>> >"Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
>> >news:m5l69vkqit092t525u0vaqe5qcao05caaj{at}4ax.com...
>> >> The 'shall' does not make it passive voice. 
"Passive voice" is a term
>> >> describing a particular grammatical construction.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:24:27 +0100, "Paul
Ranson" 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >A nit. The 'shall' does it for me.
>> >> >
>> >> >Paul
>> >> >
>> >> >"Gary Wiltshire" 
wrote in message
>> >> >news:98d69v0ct8pu0u9qucdrnb62dnfnqt2egh{at}4ax.com...
>> >> >> There is nothing in passive voice in this quote.
 It would be
>> >> >> rewritten: "No law shall be made by
Congress respecting an
>> >> >> establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof;
>> >> >> or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the
press; or the right of
>> >> >> the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the Government for
>a
>> >> >> redress of grievances."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:21:57 +0100, "Paul
Ranson" 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >You would appear not to be....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Congress shall make no law respecting
an establishment of
>religion,
>> >or
>> >> >> >prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or
abridging the freedom of
>> >> >speech,
>> >> >> >or of the press; or the right of the people
peaceably to assemble,
>and
>> >to
>> >> >> >petition the Government for a redress of
grievances."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Passive voice, applies to everyone affected
by US law. QED...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Paul
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Ellen K."
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:2k759vcufruaqjf3hlv43pdl4e9pshq6l9{at}4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> Now you're an authority on our laws?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 10:25:31 +0200, Phil Payne
>> >> >> >>  wrote in message
>> >> >> >> :
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I believe free speech is
protected by the first amendment...an
>> >> >> >amendment I hold
>> >> >> >> >> very dear.  Both you and Phil
are very opinioned...leave it at
>> >that.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >The First Amendment is written in
the passive voice and applies
>to
>> >> >> >everyone
>> >> >> >> >affected by US law.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>

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