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echo: all-politics
to: GREGORY DEYSS
from: DENNIS KATSONIS
date: 2020-07-23 10:00:00
subject: Re: Floyd

-=> Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

 GD> On 02 Jul 2020, Dale Shipp said the following...

 DS>  -=> On 07-01-20  07:59,  Gregory Deyss <=-
 DS>  -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Floyd <=-

 DS> Are they free to move into your neighborhood and not be subjected to
 DS> predujice and scorn?  Are they free to have equal schools?  Are they
 DS> free to walk or jog down your street without someone deciding that they
 DS> do not belong and then chase them down with guns?  Are they free to get
 DS> on an elevator without noticing that the woman who is there tightens her
 DS> grip on her purse?

 GD> Your painting with a rather large brush in a attempt to prove your
 GD> point. but there are things that are simply no longer the case which
 GD> dulls the point that you are trying to make here.

 GD> These people are subject to watch them closely because of previous
 GD> events. Being Vigilant is not Prejudice.
 GD> Blacks have been equal in schools since the civil rights act has been
 GD> passed. No one is chasing them out of town with guns aimed - that would
 GD> illegal and punishable by law. I do understand where there would be a
 GD> fear of a sole women in elevator gripping her purse more securely -so
 GD> what. Just because she feels slightly insecure or may just feel
 GD> frightened, means nothing in it self. This is not a crime and it
 GD> shouldn't provide the spark or trigger or create the outrage that
 GD> destroys cities across the United States.

 DS> Within my lifetime, I can recall going into a restaurant for lunch and
 DS> observing a black couple who had to go to the back door and get food to
 DS> eat in their car.  I can recall that my schools had no black students.
 DS> I can recall observing black analysts being denied promotion for no good
 DS> reason, even though they were as qualified as others.  I can recall when
 DS> it was against the law for a white and a black to get married.  Most of
 DS> these things are no longer true, but the stain and stigma remains.

 GD> I am not denying that any of those things have happened, but as you
 GD> recall these memories from the past, would you ever imagine that they
 GD> would have a National Black Lives Matter movement?  or think that those
 GD> people would be causing havoc and chaos in the cities with burning
 GD> rioting and looting?

 GD> The stigma of what some of these people have chosen to become
 GD> continues. While other African-Americans are hard working contributing
 GD> members of society.

 GD> Did you know every back man who was shot and killed by a police officer
 GD> from Michael Brown to George Floyd would still be alive today if they
 GD> did not resist arrest?

 GD> This entire BLM movement is ridiculous.
 GD> Where were they in the Obama years.
 GD> Where are they today with Black on Black crime.
 GD> Where are they today when innocent kids get shot and killed.
 GD> Not one of these Representatives of this group has acknowledged the
 GD> collateral damage of their behavior.

 GD> You know what this is all about it is in direct defiance of declaration
 GD> made from the President with Law and Order and the authority that it
 GD> represents. These people suggest "Too many Rules" and therefore no
 GD> respect for Law & Order" They are kidding themselves if they think they
 GD> will be successful against the Full power of the U.S. Government.

 GD> Democratic mayors and Governors have lost control of their cities in
 GD> several cities because they are weak.

 GD> Companies want to still make money so they join the bandwagon of the
 GD> BLM Movement.

 GD> All lives Matter - which includes everyone.
 GD> If you need to define or indicate a color before All Lives Matter then
 GD> that is racist too.

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Didn't BLM start during the Obama years?

The BLM movement today has been coopted by Whites.  White people have taken the
BLM "brand" and are using moral capital to push their own ideology.  There are
a lot of young White people who want to fight for a cause, to push a new
ideology, and this was a good one to use.  I saw an interesting quote from a
Black cop who said there were more Blacks in the police force at the protest,
than among the protestors themselves.  

Leftist radicals do that, they jump on board a movement and turn it into their
own.  If you see something "pro-Palestine" in Melbourne, its actually
Socialists, mostly young White people, with a few Palestinians who haven't
cottoned onto the fact the cause is not longer theirs.

... Dennis Katsonis
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