From: "Glenn Meadows" 

It will take a bit longer than a few hours or days. The new reality has to
set in, and the additional pockets of resistance have to be cleared out.
Still lots to do of course.

--
Glenn M.


"Phil Payne"  wrote in message
news:3E9582B4.EC148DCC{at}isham-research.com...
> >> now where did I put that quote from Phil.. oh here it is
>
> No quote from me follows.
>
> > Do you think those who supported continuing the regime (and called the
> > liberators worse than the Nazis and murderers) will admit the mistake?
> > I wouldn't expect such enlightenment. I suspect the resentment for
> > doing the right thing will continue by them, even as the Iraqi people
> > begin to enjoy life again.
>
> You keep saying I supported the regime.  If you say it long enough, you
> might start to believe it.
>
> I see no sign of the Iraqi people starting "to enjoy life
again".  Quite
> the reverse.  I have seen a few hundred unruly youths dancing about - but
> from here it's hard to tell whether it's the elimination of Saddam or the
> elimination of authority altogether that they're celebrating.  I've seen
> many reports of people with families barricading their houses against
> looters.  So far the biggest victims seem to be the shopkeepers, whose
> entire livelihoods have been stolen from them while the troops looked on
> and did nothing.  Their insurance, should they have any, will of course
die
> with the state.
>
> I wonder how long it will be before roaming gangs of Shi'ite youths bent
on
> rape and perhaps worse will start roaming the Sunni parts of Baghdad.
>
> Saddam practised terror, but it was largely predictable terror.  The
terror
> that now stalks the streets of Basra and Baghdad is unpredictable.
>
> > The negativity will continue, the plaster has set.
> >
> > As hard as it is to give a sincere apology at times, it can be far
> > harder to accept it in a gracious manner. I don't expect much exercise
> > in either tho.
>
> You needn't steel yourself for the effort - it won't be necessary.
>
> Unless of course we find stocks of chemical weapons and Al Quaeda training
> manuals within that part of Iraq that Saddam still controlled.
>
> This attack was and is a sham and a fraud - an imperialist adventure fedd
> by greed for oil.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,933596,00.html
>
> "In reality, the course of the conflict has strengthened the case against
a
> war supposedly launched to rid Iraq of "weapons of mass
destruction" - but
> which has now morphed into a crusade for regime change as evidence for the
> original pretext has so embarrassingly not materialised. Not only have US
> and British forces so far been unable to find the slightest evidence of
> Saddam Hussein's much-vaunted chemical or biological weapons. But the
Iraqi
> regime's failure to use such weapons up to now, even at the point of its
> own destruction, suggests either that it doesn't possess any - at least in
> any usable form, as Robin Cook suggested - or that it has decided their
use
> would be militarily ineffective and politically counter-productive."
>
> --
>   Phil Payne
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>   +49 173 6242039

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