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to: KERRY KOWALSKI
from: MARTIN NIEMEYER
date: 1996-12-27 20:39:00
subject: Happenings

On (26 Dec 96) Kerry Kowalski wrote to Ivy Iverson...
 KK>             On Monday, December 23rd, 1996 - Ivy Iverson wrote:
 II> You may also record YOUR OWN phone calls provided that at the
 II> start of the call you inform the person on the other end that
 II> you are recording and get their permission to record.  This
 II> must be at the beginning of the conversation.  I would
 KK> Check out yer phone book on this...  You don't have to say
 KK> nothin' bout any recording device!  We brought the tapes, the
 KK> phone book, and a tape player to court...  The oposition was
 KK> mumbling...  They can't use that in court...  After showing the
 KK> judge page 26 of the Manitowoc (AT&T) phone book he allowed the
 KK> tapes to be played and we won the case!  The phone book stated
 KK> that as long as 1 of the parties knew the call was being
 KK> recorded and was a particapant in the call, and the call
 KK> diden't cross state lines (interstate call) it can be recorded
 KK> and used any way you wish as long as it was used in full from
 KK> end to end...  No dubs no cuts...  complete.
That's the way it is in the state of Oregon. I can't say anything
about the part concerning crossing state lines but I can tell you it
is legal to record any phone conversation as long as one of the
parties involved is a participant in the call.
Laws are funny though. Recently here in Portland, Police accidently
stumbled on a Tanning Salon owner who had hidden cameras set up to
video tape clients undressing to get an "all over tan". Much to
everyone's surprise (including the culprit) this was not illegal to
do with out consent. The police ended up looking through the videos
in hopes of finding to people in the same booth area or different
booths talking to each other. Then and only then, would they have
something they could arrest someone for.
Civil laws are a little different, and I am happy to say the owner
of the Tanning Salon, has over twenty women suing him. My guess is
that they will probably win, although the paper reports the guy has
few assets and no insurance.
Martin
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