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echo: philos
to: DAY BROWN
from: DAVID MARTORANA
date: 1998-03-18 11:22:00
subject: `Holodecks & HOLODECKS`

 ++> From Intercept between Day Brown and Richard Meic
 ++> on "PHILOSOPHY"
 
 RM>  RM>> You seem to really like that holodeck idea. ;)
 RM>  DB> It solves a lotta problems.
 
 RM> Sure, in an "I don't want to face reality as it really is", kinda way.
 RM> ;)  I think it is a cop-out, but that is only my opinion.  Sorry if it
 RM> sounded too slammy.
 
 DB> Not at all.  accepting reality for what it *appears* to be has led
 DB> to existentialism, the negation of purpose, and a similar cop-out.
 
 DB> If one accepts the religious notion that it is all god's plan, it
 DB> requires no further thought, just faith.  OTOH: if it is not part
 DB> of God's plan, then what?
 
   If God is on the PHIL echo, and has not yet acquired a HOLODECK,
   I'm sure He's having one built in his garden. Your contribution to
   His options would not go unnoticed.
 
 DB> The holodeck has a lotta flexibility in what facts are presented
 DB> to you depending on who you are, and what part of the deck you are
 DB> on; thus we see the blindman-elephant syndrome, where each of us
 DB> *assumes* the facts we have are a complete set available to all. A
 DB> more realistic approach suggests a set of less obvious facts which
 DB> have universal application, but which manifest themselves in many
 DB> very obvious, but also different, ways.  Somewhat analagous to the
 DB> Newtonian & quantum view of physics.  In most cases, the former is
 DB> the most useful in daily life, but it is the latter that comes to
 DB> grips with underlying anomalies like radio-activity.
 
  Your expanding introduction of the "HOLODECK" (specific OR metaphor)
  concept onto the PHIL echo has created (for those so prone to see it
  MORE than just a phantasy box) a central reference to explore most any
  idea within and against.  For me it "STARTS OUT" as an "everything-is-
  relative" machine; for others, pushing other program keys, it could be
  most anyway they wish .....or wish to be surprized by..!       My only
  question might be whether we would ever become smart enough to design
  an honest OVERLOAD circuit for it. 
 
                             ~~~~~
 
 
    DM> ... Your easing of historical complexity is truly warming....!
 
    DB> I stole it from Neitzsche. ;)
 
        Could you just imagine our lil' Freddy running around half naked
     & half mad on "Holodeck 5" with his mama trying to catch him before
     he pushed any Aryan program buttons ... ???
                            _,
                            ## ... Dave
 
 
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