Hi, Roy.
-=> on 05-01-05 20:06, ROY J. TELLASON wrote to JIM HOLSONBACK <=-

 RJT> JIM HOLSONBACK wrote in a message to ROY J. TELLASON:


 RJT> I have several ATX boards here waiting for cases.  That one you sent my
 RJT> way with the busted caps has been fixed,

I disremember what model that was - - IF resoldering down that leaning
Cap works, and IF the chipset is Intel 440BX, it should support 100 FSB
and up to 450 MHz or so.  You may have to change a jumper to get it to
do 100 FSB.

 RJT> and I have at least 3-4
 RJT> others as well.

Woohoo!   And you are waiting to test them out real soon  - - -??

 JH> You got PII cpu's for 'em?  I have a boxful of PII-350's, if
 JH> any of yours will support 100FSB processors.  Otherwise, they
 JH> would run at only 233 due to the locked clock multiplier.

 RJT> I dunno,  I'll have to look.  That board with the caps has a CPU with
 RJT> it, riveted heatsink with fan on one end,  long part number with no
 RJT> speed apparent- 80523PY3350512PE SL2U3 - I'm guessing that's a 350.

Sounds like I sent you one from that boxfull - That's it. PII 350 with
512 cache.  Slowest of the PII chips with 100 FSB, but good for testing,
due to the _low_ cost to me and thee.

 RJT> Got one other board here with a 450.  Also a couple of Socket 7 boards
 RJT> in ATX,  probably 3 or so of them,  with I think P200s in 'em.

Unless you check those Socket 7 boards out and find you have boards or
faster chips than 200 which can work in them, (maybe at least in the 400
range), I think not much need to save them. IMO a good ATX case and PS
can be of good value for upgrading  - -

 RJT> The  Dell I just got a hold of not long ago I finally got
 RJT> around to firing  up last night and it has a P-II 333 in it.
 RJT> I haven't looked at the Compaq and HP yet.

That 333 was a real 'cadillac' in its day, being the fastest PII which
some of the early 66MHz PII boards would support. It was based on 0.25
micron mask, had lower core voltage than the earlier models, and used
less power than even the original PII-233  (23.7W vs 34.8W).  BIR last
one of those I bought was about $18, and I passed it along to my friend
at cost for him to upgrade a system which he had passed on to his uncle
or some other relative. I haven't shopped lately - I guess PII-333
are now going for $5 or less, for sure.  (I'd guess for less).

 RJT> Looks like the Celeron box I'm currently using with linux *may* perform
 RJT> better if I stuck that 450 in there,  but I need to see how the board
 RJT> the 450 is currently in compares with the one the Celeron is currently
 RJT> sitting in,  which is limited to 384MB of ram by design.  Lots of stuff
 RJT> to figure out here...

Are the 450 and the Celeron the Same package?  A PII450 should be Slot
1. Celeron 433 and slower were available for Slot 1, and Celeron 300 up
to 433 were also available for Socket 370.  Celeron 466 up to 1.4GHz
were only available for Socket 370.  Even where in the same package,
not all mainboards would support all speeds.

- - -  JimH.
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