On Mar 16 2003  Bob Short wrote to Steven Horn:

SH> It may be the only way it can be done but I did not originate the
SH> amendmen
SH> I think we'd have to see what Bob Short thought of that proposition.

 BS> It would seen as dead-ended as the proposal itself, by the looks of
 BS> things.  :(

Myself and others told you as much when it was first envisioned. I don't
blame you for trying, human nature dictates that those in power will not
/willingly/
give up such power. It's a hard lesson to learn, join the crowd, some of us
learned this lesson long ago in Fidonet.  :( 


 BS> Personally, I have always though it incumbant upon the IC to press
 BS> the issue, and /require/ responses from the RC (once they were
 BS> informed of such a proposal).  If he has done so, he has fialed to
 BS> relay results here (or elsewhere) AFAIK.

Don't forget Ward is at the top of the power chain. He fought hard and long
to get to his position, as evidenced by his constant attacks on Satti to
get there years ago. He not going to seriously take a step in the direction
of giving /his/ power to the sysops, he fought to get it and won't
willingly give it up. Human nature, unfortunately for many of the Fidonet
sysop.

 BS> I've not been around lately, so can't coment on any current events,
 BS> but my understanding is that we're as far on this as when we first
 BS> started.  :(

Some things will never change, even if they should.  :(

Have a nice day!
                  Phil

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