05-04-05  12:43, Jim Holsonback told James Bradley about 100/66 MHz fsb

 How do, Jim?

 JH> I've done a little research on the SaintSong EPC-1.

I appreciate that, Jim. As you now see - unless they hired a *real*
translator, and move from Tiawan - they tend to bamboozle their way through
quite a bit.
 
 -=> on 05-02-05 21:05, JAMES BRADLEY wrote to JIM HOLSONBACK <=-
 
 JB> Maybe you'd know: 100 fsb/socket 370 will take me to a
 JB> !!!/Celeron 800, or a VIA 900MHz? I keep getting mushy info

 JB> Hmmm... The best I've gathered, is the VIA will run the MB {at} 100, and
 JB> the Intel products drop the speed to 66. The only thing that came with
 JB> the docs, was it will run a 466M CPU or above. From my previous
 JB> research, I garnered the 800M Intel, and a 900M VIA CPU was the last
 JB> 370 produced for a 66/100M fsb.

 JH> I found in "Q&A" at their website -
 JH> Espresso currently supports PIII up to 700, 66MHz Celeron to 733, or
 JH> 750 MHz VIA C3.  _But_ I found elsewhere on internet a writeup where
 JH> they were offering it with a PIII-800.

Like you say, perhaps dependanding on the rev.# on the MB... 

I know when I first landed the rig, I did quite a bit of research on it,
and a definitive source mentioned the 800M/900M limits. I'm pretty sure it
wasn't just some Joe selling one on Ebay. Either the file disapeared with
my partition scramble, (The LAST time I trust C:\My Docs!) or it's hiding
somewhere in a zip/pdf.

 JH> Support of faster chips _may_ have to do with board and BIOS
 JH> revisions. For example, I rechecked, and have here an Asus MEW-AM
 JH> board. The original version of the board supported only 66 Mhz Celerons
 JH> up to 533MHz, but starting with Board Rev. 1.02 and BIOS 1003.004, it
 JH> would support 100 MHz chips, up to Celeron 1100 and P3-850.

I don't recall seeing anything about the MB being updated on it, but like I
say, being from Tiawan... Given my last research timeframe... Given the
phase of the moon, and the hight of the tides...

 JH> Still talking off top of my head - I don't remember if you said what
 JH> CPU is in there now.  One consideration _might_ be memory speed.  The
 JH> Asus board here has jumpers which can set for 66Mhz cpu and 100Mhz
 JH> memory, but not vice-versa.  So if your existing SODIMM memory is PC66,
 JH> that might not work with cpu upgraded to 100Mhz.

I'll be... I've been running a "133A" chip. (At least that's what
it says on the paper sticker.) That shouldn't cause any problems by running
it at a lower rate, should it?

Gone are the days when the last number silkscreened on the ceramic
designated the speed?

 JB> The manufacturer is SaintSong (One word.) System model is EPC-I

 JH> It _is_ a cute little thing. :-)  Did you get the docking station with
 JH> it?

...All in one box! It was *really* handy to set up next to the bed-du-jour.

I was a little jealous about the DVD dock, (Mine came with the CD/floppy)
but I found a good enough deal on an external DVD burner just last year. I
still don't have a bootable DVD setup, (USB boot doesn't seem to like the
DVD format, or doesn't recognize it...  ) I had to fudge a little
with it to get RH to find it, (Mounting /dev/cdrom, and cdrom1 first seemed
to do it.) but MEPIS was a little brain dead on the USB front.

 JB> The MB, I know is by Intel, with an 810 vid. built in.

 JH> I think not likely.  Intel sold the 810 chips to a number of board
 JH> makers, like the Asus here.

Again, I'll have to dig around. Somewhere told me it was an Intel MB.

 JB> microscope. ;-) The HD went South on it, so the next buck is going to
 JB> be spent on that.

 JH> Ouch!  Looks like time to go to Ebay and look for a 2.5" drive.

Ya... One of the *few* HDs I purchased new, and FRAP! I was informed they
don't use actuators any more, so reseating a spring isn't going to fix
it.... (Actuator slammin' then SMART tells me to "BACK UP NOW!"
or somesuch.)

 JH> Sorry no definitive answers from here.  Have you email contacted their
 JH> Tech support and asked them?

I couldn't rightly tell you. Just before I lost my gratis ISP account, I
had *just* purchased the HD and SODIMM. The CPU was a payback from a
friend, (466M Celeron) so I just ran with that until something better
availed itself, and I could gather a more definitive answer.

 JH> support{at}saintsong.com.tw

So I stopped by at the library on my way to an appointment, logged onto the
ebay registered email account to see what the HDs are selling for. After
that I go looking for the Sterling page on james_bradley. Pasword failure!
Reset the password, and *that* doesn't work. Reset again, and the ebay
{at}canada account goes MIA!

If this is the age of Aquarius, I can't wait for it to *end!* 

Thanks again for your efforts, Jim! Like I say, the info is more a
curiosity at this time, and intended as "If it's available to your
recall." As soon as I sues out a HD, and pay off one more debt, I
should be able to put more grunt into the research.


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