Hello Michiel,

On Mon Jul 13 2020 00:10:26, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 MV> If one uses antiquated abandonware that does not support the CHRS
 MV> kludge, than the recommended course of action is simple: do not use it
 MV> in a a way that was not part of the game when it was designed. When it
 MV> was designed Fidonet was ASCII only. IOW, use ASCII only in your
 MV> messages.

What you're not taking into consideration here, is that FIDONET itself and 99%
of it's technology is antiquated abandonware. I know it hurts, but it's the
truth.

 NB>> xlatimport cp437

 NB>> Should fix this for you.

 MV> Only for this message and others messages that use CP437 as the
 MV> encoding. The world of Fidonet is bigger than CP437. Much bigger.

Which, per our discussion about BBS softwares that don't use the CHRS kludge,
should fix most things for you. The fact that the world of Fidonet is MUCH
bigger (I laughed when I read that) than anything is in your own delusions. ;)

 MV> Nothing is forever and hobbys come and go. Yes, Fidonet is on the
 MV> trailing edge of the Bell curve. Denial is not a river in Egypt. That
 MV> does not stop me from doing what I think is best to help to keep it
 MV> going for as long as I can.

Do you ever take a moment to think of how many people you've driven out of
Fidonet? I didn't think so.

 MV> You call it nitpicking, I call it reporting on abberations that I
 MV> observe. Isn't feed back an essential part of testing?

Not when less than a couple handfulls of people actually care.

 NB>> And since I imported it as cp437, I should have now converted it
 NB>> to UTF-8, just for you. ;)

 MV> What you achieved is converting the Capital O with circumflex to
 MV> UFT-8. I do not know if that was the plan...

No. Whatever came in here as cp437 (the umlaut o as was read properly in CP437)
got converted to that capital O with circumflex. If that was wrong, then
Golded's conversion tables are trash (oh that's right, even Golded the end all
be all can not convert 8bit to UTF-8 properly, OH NOOOOO!), and there's may be
more broken shit for you to complain about. ;)

Needless to say this same exact conversation has reared it's head over and over
for at LEAST the past decade. Not much has been fixed in that regard, but more
and more people have left Fidonet. The scales are tipping, and not in your
favo(u)r. *shrug*

Have a nice day!

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
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