-=> Quoting Day Brown to All <=-
 DB> If you could be there to witness the Big Bang, where is the 'there 
 DB> there' that you could be?  If all mass and energy of the universe 
 DB> is in a single point, then of course, it would be a black hole of 
 DB> such power that no light would be emmitted for you to perceive an 
 DB> image of what was happening.
I've never been clear on what Big Bangers believe as they
seem to always change their claims based on the evidence
that they're trying to avoid.  But, it seems popular to
believe that there wasn't anything close to enough gravity
to hold things together (obviously, the mass of the universe
is less than that of a Black Hole).
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