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echo: fidotest
to: ROBERT WOLFE
from: MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
date: 2020-07-13 14:30:00
subject: Test

Hello Robert,

On Tuesday July 14 2020 00:00, you wrote to me:

 RW> -> RW> @MSGID: 1:261/20 ec0abb8e
 RW> -> RW> @TID: InterEcho 1.20 00000000
 RW> ->
 RW> -> No REPLY kludge.
 RW> -> NO TZUTC kludge and a date in the future
 RW> -> No CHARS kludge

 RW> No big deal.  InterEcho is old DOS software.  The author has been told
 RW> about it.

The original author left Fidonet two decades ago. InterMail was a fork of
FrontDoor when the Frontdoor team of JOHO and Peter Stewart fell apart and
Peter went his own way with InterMail. InterMail was a good mailer in its time.
I say "was" becasue it stopped at version 2.50 when it became obvious that
Peter Stewart no longer considered it a working bussines model and departed for
greener pastures. As I said, it /was/, past tense, a good mailer. I dropped it
ten years ago when I moved on and dropped POTS.

The accompanying editor was never more than "soso" and Interecho never got
further than crippleware. I tried it for a short time and then threw it out.
There were beter tossers around back then.

The present maintainer? Well, is there a 32 bit version yet? I don't think
so...

 RW> ->
 RW> -> RW> -> >
 RW> ->
 RW> -> Non standard quoting character.
 RW> ->

 RW> So what, are you trying to tell me and the rest of the known world
 RW> that Wildcat is a non-standard BBS package?

I am trying to tell you that it is decades old abandonware that has not evolved
into the third decade of the 21st century along with the rest of Fidonet.

 RW> Come to think of it, I think PCBoard uses the same quoting style.

Idem: old abandonware.

 RW> -> RW>  rather than contstantly nit-picking miniscule things in a
 RW> dying -> hob ^ -> Line truncated in quoting.

 RW> Again, I have to blame this on the software.

It is your decision to use it and so you are responsible for this crippleware
injects into the network. Truncating lines when quoting is annoying. It  had me
lose a "not" making it look like I wrote the opposite of what I wrote. Using
non up to state of the art quoting makes it dificult to see who wrote what. In
the above quote who wrote about the nit-picking? To see that I have to go back
in the thread. But the missing REPLY kludge makes that difficult.  The reply
chain is broken which is also annoying.

 RW> Probably a Wildcat! 4.2 thing.  Again, software that is not being
 RW> developed anymore, so why worry about it?

Using abondonware that has not evolved with the rest of Fidonet and so no
longer is up to the state of the art is annoying and can have a detrimental
effects on the smooth operation of the network. It was stated that the hobby is
dying. Using abandonned crippleware drives people away. That is why I worry
about it.

Just My EUR 0,02...

Cheers, Michiel

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