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to: Thurston Ackerman
from: Wayne Chirnside
date: 2003-01-08 12:06:00
subject: Re: joint discomforts

-=> THURSTON ACKERMAN wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 WC> WC> My knee is badly messed up too but nothing compared to the back.

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 TA> Have either of you tried glucosamine with chondroitin yet?

Never heard of them. Stopped going to doctors in 1995
because they never offered effective pain relief.
I take it these aren't painkillers but something
to directly address the condition causing the pain?

 TA> I have had an arthritic spine for over 50 years that some NSAIDs
 TA> helped manage some; until VIOXX produced a couple bleeding stomach
 TA> ulcers last July 14th, so no more NSAIDs any more.

 Haven't heard of these either. Last thing doctors prescribed,
 in 95, was Anaprox that gave me severe stomach bleeding and
 no relief.

 TA> My son had unsuccessfully tried glucosamine for his knees, but my
 TA> GP suggessed I might be one of the 50% that realize some relief
 TA> from it, so I gave it a try. It and 2 tylenols 3x/day help keep
 TA> me mobile, after I manage to get out of the bed in the morning.

 I've saved this post to text and shall do some
 research on the drugs you mentioned.
 
 TA> So long as one isn't intolerant of shellfish, it generally doesn't
 TA> have any side affects; and hopefully you may be lucky also. 
 
 No allergy to shellfish. Is this stuff possibly available OTC?
 
 TA> Start
 TA> with a two 1500mg capsule 3x/day for the first 90 days and then
 TA> moderate down to one 1500mg capsule three times per day. I find
 TA> the Mason Vitamine Inc. of Miami Lakes, Fl capsules (1500mg
 TA> glucosamine sulfate and 1500mg chondroitin sulfate with a smeegin
 TA> of vitamin c and manganese) are the easiest to get down.

 TA> Ciao, Ack.

Thanks for the post, will look into this stuff.
I feel especially down today with that cracked rib still 
nagging at me. I now recall why that last fall nailed me so bad,
it's because the driveway here though overgrown is actually concrete but
doesn't look it.
I've an acquaintance that's a prescription drug junkie who has just 
recently admitted to his doctors what he's taking and they gave him
morphine sulfate!!! The guy is now COMPLAINING because while it
stops the pain he can't get high off his other drugs!
I'm so bad off now it's not painkillers I'm looking for but something
to address the underlying condition as painkillers would now just mask
my condition and lead to even worse symptoms and more falls, ect.
 
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