From: Adam 

George Sherwood wrote:
> "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
> message news:44ad5a05$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>>> I think this is much less likely under the Mine Ban Treaty.  I will be
>>> working with some of the Humanitarian Demining here.  One is
especially a
>>> mess where the Soviets tried to blow up some ammo.  One more of many
>>> messes
>>> they left here.
>>>
>> Oh I'm sure. Not just their problemo's though...you should see the mess
>> you lot left across the border in Iran....
>
> Not sure exeactly what you are talking about, but if it is the whole Shah
> thing, then that is really the pot calling the kettle black.  



Ah the wonders of the SAVAK.

> Let me
> point out a few more places where the UK did so well. 

Such as say giving Ngorno-Karabakh to the Azeris so as to cause a timebomb
for the Russians?

Anyway....Turkey should stretch to Baku anyway....


> But seriously I am
> often shocked at the mess left here and I have to imagine in all the FSU.
> Both economically and environmentally.
>

You ain't seen the 1/2 of it.

Go & have a look {at}:

A) The Aral Sea & the surrounding pesticide & salt laden
dustclouds.... B) The former island in the Aral Sea where the SU carried
out their bio
& chem warfare development & then simply.....left....& is now a
"former
island" & has had much of it's contents liberated by said salt
& pesticide laden dust storms.....mmmmmm tasty....

Oddly named as.....Renaissance Island. Nowadays one might consider it as
the place where something like smallpox might achieve a
"Renaissance".



>> The problem is as ever a simple one of fusing. A ton of pressure? 1/2
>> ton? 140 pounds?
>>
>> I had an entertaining conversation once with a bod who was seriously
>> positing that a motorcycle is a vehicle ergo.....light pressure fuses
>> which may or may not blow some farmer 10 years later to hell.
>
> Seem to me to that if a person's weight can set it off at all.  It is AP.
> But I am sure there is many different interpretations of the rules.
>

Thin man on a motorcycle weighs.....? Large man with backpack etc weighs....?


>> Ditto these mines. The only diff really twixt ap & at &
esp av is one of
>> sensor sensitivity which anyway can be made to ummmmm "become more
>> sensitive with age".
>
> I think though like you said before the more sensitive the mine, the
> trickier this hopping becomes. Don't think it is just a matter of changing
> the setting.
>


I'd be curious to see what these mines look like. My guess is that they are
not really talking about "hopping dinner plates"


>> Indeed. Is attacking a bus an attack on the bus or on the contents?
>> Tractor driven by a farmer 5 years after the war has ended etc.etc.
>>
>> Nasty sodding things which should be gone. I could send you some pickies
>> of me & mines from an early age (approx 6 or 7).
>
> I hope to get out of the city soon and will send some pics of what is around
> here right now.
>

The border to the south & the one in Nakhchivan with Iran & Turkey
were always some what "statically defended" & to that must be
added the recent Azeri-Armenian defences.


>> Most of the bizarre & troubled places which I grew up in had the usual
>> unpleasant number of them (both ap & at/av.)
>
> I wonder if things are getting any better now.  I would hope so, that people
> realize these things don't work that well and are a disaster for so many
> years to come.
>

Yup. There's nowt quite like landmines for keeping the killing going long
after the war has ended.

There are huge chunks of the world which will never be "certified mine
free". I have a mate who was in Angola & SE Asia doing clearance
& frankly....you can reduce the numbers but not ever be sure you've
eliminated all of them.


>
>> Any dancing on tables with some local fillies or was he more reserved?
>
> Interesting question after the talk I had with a UK Embassy person the other
> day.  I mentioned that the Duke seemed distracted on stage, just looking
> around while others were speaking.   He said he noticed it too and wasn't
> sure what was going on since he didn't seen any topless women around.  Most
> be something I am missing out on about your Duke. 
>


He's always had an eye for the laydeeez.

Adam

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