GG> Roger that.  There was a guy in Dallas a few years ago engaged police in 
 GG> high speed chase, which ended in front of his house when he started 
 GG> shooting a shotgun at the cops.  After 115 shots (of which 9 were hits, 
 GG> of those, 6 upper body hits) the fight ended.  The perpetrator was on TV 
 GG> the next night giving an interview.
 GG> If you can be shot six times in the chest cavity and be on TV the next 
 GG> night, the 9mm must be a pretty sorry round.  That and the police need 
 GG> some marksmanship training.
   Across the board, 80% of people shot survive - without regard to the round 
used. Many officers of my acquaintance would prefer a .40 or a 10mm to the 
9 - but a properly placed 9 will do the job, whereas a poorly placed .45 
will just piss the perp off.
   And upper body hits do not automatically become chest cavity hits.  
Depending on the loading, any round can walk around a rin and exit the back, 
striking neither major organ nor major vessel. Chest cavity is a relatively 
small area, relatively well defended.  Upper body is something else again.  
   The ideal round would be a launched grenade - but it makes a terrible mess 
on the walls.
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