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from: Herbert Rosenau
date: 2005-10-26 12:48:44
subject: Re: [SPAM?]: Re: [SPAM?]: Re: W2K gone again!!!! ${at}^#{at}#$#{at}$&^)).$#

xe22{at}optonline.net wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Herbert Rosenau  Tue, 25
Oct 2005 20:05:57 +0200 
>  
>  
> 
>>that may relevant to help you.  
>>  
>>Which eCS version?  
>>  
>>Which fixpack level?  
>>  
>>Which kernel version?  
>>  
>>Which filesystem?  
>>  
>>Myself got shorently exactly the same behavior with WARP4 FP15.   
>>Solution: exchange the whole harddisk! That resolved the problem   
>>completely.  
>>  
>>--   
>>Tschau/Bye 
> 
>  
> It doesn't matter. My point is that after running Warp4 for eight 
> years without a hitch I "upgrade" to eCS and have problems usually 
> associated with MS. It is 1.2 out of the box, with updated drivers 
> off the eCS site. If the solution is to exchange my 200GB Seagate 
> SATA whenever there's a burp it would be cheaper to go MS. I'm 
> running Warp4 at work on older drives with no data corruption no 
> matter how I crash. 
> That is what I expected from eCS. 

Switching to M$ would be no solution at least. As sayed, I'm running a 
computer with WARP4 GA and upgraded over the time from fixpack to 
fixpack until FP15 were out. Now the system runs since 5 years without 
any new fix, new install... but it runs 24h/7d - and now it starts to 
go flaky and more flaky any time a boot has be done. At least I'd lost 
90% of all files on disk. I was able to restore 99,999% of all from 
FIOUNDxx. I se the system hanging on access one single (the most used) 
logical drive dayly until I reboot and restore something again from 
FOUNDxx.

It is not WARP, not eCS but the physical drive that is dying slowly 
bit after bit. No, I've never seen that in 17 years experience with 
OS/2 or M$ - but now it is fact.

I've seen friends loosing theyr mainboards during install of W2k and 
XP - whereas prior OS/2 WARP4 were running well. I've seen dying 
drives in been changing magically irrecoverable to readonly during 
power fail.

The problem you have is the drive is dying very slowly. You may backup 
any data on it, then low level format, then partitioning it, then 
restore the backup - and after short time you'll see the same efekt 
again independand of the OS - except that instead of loosing files 
you'll loose the complete windows install.

I've running eCS 1.1 on some computers since it was coming out - and 
have not loose a single file on it, even as it had more reboots on 
power loose or pressing the reset button for recovering from hardware 
failtures. So it is NOT eCS that makes trouble it is the pure hardware.

I'd installed eCS 1.2 and have that system running since 1 year 
flawless 24h/7d week.

I'd loosed the whole disk under WARP4 while the power get lost because 
the power cable under the street was broken and the whole house was 
power less for some hours.

Whenever you have trouble with loosing data you would boot up from CD 
and run 'chkdsk x: /F:3'. This will give you a directory named FOUNDxx 
and therein anything back again. You would have to rename anything in 
the root of FOUNDxx - but you'll have anything back. Be sure that 
chkdsk finishes its work completely. When the drive is not 100 healthy 
it may occure that chkdsk does NOT run one or more steps without 
warning you. As you runs from CD it will not give you the volume free 
for use, run chkdsk /F:3 again.

At least when the trouble occures constantly again it is time to 
exchange the drive, not the system.

-- 
Tschau/Bye

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