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echo: aust_ads
to: Rod Speed
from: Richard Borg
date: 1995-12-11 17:15:30
subject: EARNING OPPORTUNITIES

RS> I've binned great swags of your juvenile raving where you just flaunt
RS> your utter ignorance of the law. Unfortunately for you, you wont be
RS> able to plead ignorance when the large footed fellows come calling.

Good on you Rod!  Just makes it easier for you to not have to answer each 
point with a valid argument!

The rest of what you wrote just skipped past the point I was making.

RS> RB> A legit company is built around a product &/or service.
RS> 
RS> Pity EWI hasnt GOT a product &/or service, just a sophisticated scam which
RS> makes it very difficult for those getting their pockets pumped to check up
RS> on whats happening to their money, because its purportedly being spent in
RS> the US. So they get to pump lots of pockets and bugger off to the Bahamas
RS> where no one can touch them before too many find out that its a scam Dick.
RS> 

Pathetic Rod!  How many times will you base your *ENTIRE* argument around 
this same bullshit paragraph!?    See my message to Lewin.  Whether you 
agree or not is irrelevant - you infact, are irrelevant Rod!

RS> RB> The simple test works like this:
RS> 
RS> This is a pathetically useless test to identify scams Dick.
RS> 
RS> RB> would you *buy* the product/service offered by the company
RS> RB> even if you weren't in the commission-plan or if it didn't
RS> RB> have one!? If yes.. then it's probably not a scam.
RS> 
RS> Pity that EWI fails that test Dick. Its a scam anyway.
RS> 

EWI doesn't fail that test Rod!  You told me yourself that you have bought 
shares!!!  If EWI didn't use NEtwork-Marketing to raise advertising capital 
then they too would have used the traditional method of a share float etc. 
etc. etc.!!!   Not to mention the numerous other things they offer which 
millions of people buy or participate in whether it be a network company or 
not!   Even without being a normal share, there are thousands, perhaps 
millions of people who will *buy* into such an investment (and who have 
done and will continue to do)!  Just because you wouldn;'t buy it doesn't 
mean others wouldn't! 
 

   Of course you still have the opinion that everything I have written is 
false so how can you ever know what you are writing about anyway!!!  It is 
now a case of the blind leading the blind!


RS> And that test doesnt even work with Amway, its perfectly legal, just lousy
RS> value. It isnt a scam if you can do better elsewhere, just lousy value.
RS> 

Forget Amway Rod!  I know other NEtwork companies who sell a better quality 
product than what you can buy in a retail store and it costs less!  Amway 
is just a greedy bunch of idiots!  But then I was *only* ever using them as 
a reference because you agreed that they were legal.

RS> Or its a more sophisticated scam and still a scam. If someone offered
RS> you 15% per month interest on what you deposit, and paid that for some
RS> months, it would pass your test, and would be a scam anyway Dick. It
RS> is an absolutely classic Ponzi scheme where they fund that 30% interest
RS> a month out of the new investors deposits, they cant possibly do that
RS> for long, the whole thing implodes in no time. Illegal too.
RS> 

This also seems to be your understanding of EWI. Pity it's only your 
fantasy Rod! 
As far as your example above goes: Before I "bought" such an investment, I 
would want to know how they are making such huge amounts of interest for 
me!  When I find out that their product is simply shifting money around 
then there really is no product!   So I would not buy it!  thus it is a 
scam Rod.. my test did work Rod!

If someone is so gullible that they believe that 15%/month crap then that's 
their problem!   If they know how to apply my test, then my test will 
always work Rod!

As I've said before... you can check up on companies quite easily to find 
out what and how they do things.  EWI intentionally leaves themselves open 
to examination in this way by being registered with *MANY* independent 
organisations.

RS> I never said that one wasnt a scam Dick, was just wondering if
RS> Carl was benefiting financially from that scam or if he had been
RS> scammed himself. I pointed out initially that it was calling the
RS> Seychelles. What else could it actually be BUT a scam Dick ?
RS> 

You still have triple standards Rod!   Easy to look back on all your 
actions now, after seeing all that has occured now though, and give a reply 
like that.

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Incase you're interested Rod, a friend of mine who I hadn't seen for about 
six months came over last night and told me about a thing he was involved 
in. It's called "joker 88" and started in Germany.

Guess what.. IT IS a classic Ponzi scheme Rod!   He didn't believe me that 
it was illegal until I showed him all the info I have here!  He has only 
bought into it but hasn't promoted it (which he won't be now).  He was just 
another ignorant sucker.

There is a massive difference between a blatant scam like this "joker 88" 
thing and a legit company!  Pity you don't really know what it is! (or 
aren't applying your knowledge!)

I asked the TPC if they knew about this one.. apparently one of the people 
there is checking up something about it.. but they said they may not be 
able to do anything much about it because it comes from Germany... (though 
the post is used for some of it which means they do have some jurisdiction 
over it)





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