-=> Quoting David Martorana to Clarence Hogan <=-
 ++> On March 13 Clarence Hogan wrote to David Martorana
 ++> on "Nag Hammadi & Boxes"
 
 CH>> Hey, even the best of friends don't agree on everything, but they
 CH>> don't try to smother one another by trying to put them in a box
 CH>> either, right?
 
 CH> From the "?" it looks like I have done it again and assumed too
 CH> much of my reader!  :'(  So will try to be more specific as to
 CH> what I meant by trying to put one another in a box!
 
 CH> For example, it seems that people have got Yahweh all figured out
 CH> and knows exactly what He has written in The Scriptures and now
 CH> that they have Him all figured out, they conveniently put Him in
 CH> a box and smother Him/His Words and only convey their own personal
 CH> understandings BUT not His and no longer allow Him to speak for
 CH> Himself in The Word except when it is convenient to them and their
 CH> thoughts and then they take Him out of the box and allow Him to
 CH> speak for Himself, and to my way of thinking, friends will NOT
 CH> do this to friends, so did I muddy that up any better?  ;)
 
 DM>   We box and are boxed, however unfairly, as a convenience
 DM> to understanding. I have loosely contained you within a structure (as
 DM> you have me), that any mutuality of understanding be enhanced. Such
 DM> mutual packaging allows me to approach you with some knowing of your
 DM> history, circumstances, belief system etc...... It allows for giant
 DM> paragraphs to go unsaid, yet understood. Boxing is not all bad or
 DM> good ...just a convenience ....and always open on top. In addition, we
 DM> help build our boxes by all that we say!
 We do agree and IMHO the key words are "always open on top", whereas
 my frame of reference was to a "closed" box (not air tight to 
 suffocate the occupant but sound proof to keep him quiet till we
 want or need him to speak)!  Of course much more could be discussed
 on this subject, but I feel that you are aware of all the ramifications!
  
 DM> As for "Yahweh in a box", I cannot comment, still ill prepared
 DM> to grasp the concept within my own knowing to reason.
 
 Which is fine if you do not see the connection as I for one would 
 never push for answers that are still uncertain in one's mind!
 DM> 
 
 CH> Hey, now that is an excellent suggestion which I had not thought
 CH> to ask before and since I have over 3GB free hard drive space on
 CH> my new 4GB PC, is it too large to down load to my PC, or is that
 CH> impractical or not possible?   I have a word search program already
 CH> in my PC that I can use on it!
 
 DM> The general field of pagan roots that fed into early Christianity
 DM> is vast enough to employ lifetimes. I have found that the more I
 DM> poke into what can be known, the less I feel comfortable to know
 DM> and judge. It is a case of an olding man coming to NOT see his world
 DM> so simple .....even as OTHERS do......!  Though you would not
 DM> agree, you might see how some minds built "different", can conclude
 DM> to view an "all relative" real....!
 
 We agree on the first sentence, but IMHO it is easily sifted out
 through the pages of The Bible!  Well, I also did for a time, until
 it dawned on me that it was indeed my place to judge within my own
 limits of understanding, but in no case am I to condemn for only He
 has that prerogative!  The more I see, the simpler it truly gets, 
 for when I was truly blind it was indeed ALL complicated, but only
 because "I" made it so and NOT because that it was!  And this is in
 no way to say that I know and see everything, for NO man has ever
 had that capability but ONE, but it is only to say that what little
 my eyes have been opened does present a world completely opposite
 to the one previously viewed and to learn it all IMHO can never be
 done, even unto eternity!
 DM> @@ ... dave ...
 
 HeeHee, I think that you have cute eyes dave!  ;)
 However, this is my week for girls, so don't get jumpy!  ;)
   
 DM> P.S. I might add that most ALL the non orthodox Christian-ish
 DM> works are also available on the WWW, at least all those I've
 DM> ever had need to examine (many virtually unavailable anywhere
 DM> else) .....;some a bit tricky to locate .........and also a
 DM> lifetime mass to actually digest and read...!
 I already had that in the back of my mind when I purchased this
 new PC so I could get on the Internet and already I have down
 loaded a Book on Elijah which was 484KB and just bring it up on
 screen when time permits and read a few pages and use seven "*'s"
 to mark the important texts for later reference!  HeeHee, if a
 person were to start reading when they were born and read every
 waking hour of their life and live to be a thousand, they couldn't
 read all the books that have been written to date and it is getting
 worse all the time and FASTER!  I am, after being on the Internet
 several times, about 10 or so, am finally figuring out how to find
 my way around a little and how to use the search engines, which are
 indeed a great help and as this younger generation would say, I am
 just about to get my official surf board!  ;)
Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence.......
... I don't have the solution, but I do admire the problem!  :)))))))
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