On (14 Feb 03) Rob McCart wrote to Michael Gothreau...
 RM> Hydrogen fuel cells are wonderful things but they are expensive and
 RM> require Hydrocarbons to function and the easiest place to get
 RM> hydrocarbons from is gas and oil so they are not a replacement
 RM> for conventional fuel although they virtually eliminates pollution.

But the amount needed might well be sustainable with American oil
reserves (including those thousands of ready-to-pump British Columbian
oil wells they've somehow gained ownership rights to!) :P

 RM> Also, as mentioned elsewhere, other than completely self-sustaining
 RM> energy resources like Hydro-electric, GeoThermal, Tide, Solar and
 RM> Wind, most of which are practical only in very limited areas and/or
 RM> very expensive to set up, the other renewable sources for oil all
 RM> require HUGE tracts of fertile land to produce very much fuel and
 RM> I doubt many countries have a lot of fertile land just sitting around.
 RM> Most would have to choose between growing fuel and growing food.

Not with soy and/or hemp -- both of which can produce a LOT of oil per
acre and with a short growing season/cycle, can produce a lot better
than the same soil for food (and there's no shortage of unused arable
land in the USA and Canada! (2 of the largest countries in the world,
but with relatively small populations(density is low!)

 RM> When there's a will there's a way...  And high costs are often
 RM> very good at creating a 'will'..  Today Gasoline here is just

[and now back to the echo's topic --> CANADA!]
Yup -- that's how the Alberta "Tar Sands" became so valuable -- even
though the oil wasn't readily usable in its natural state, the high
price of oil/gas/etc. made it vastly worthwhile to develop new
technologies! :P

[whoops, current high gas prices snipped]

Yes, but how often are our prices artificially set by our own corporate
cartels? :P

(remember the tin scam of some decades back?)




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