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from: John Wilkins
date: 2003-10-14 06:11:00
subject: Re: Mutations Or Natural

Guy Hoelzer  wrote:

> in article bm99k5$2vm9$1{at}darwin.ediacara.org, Paul Gallagher at
> pcg{at}panix.com wrote on 10/11/03 9:03 AM:
> 
> > In  Guy Hoelzer
 writes:
> > 
> >> My thought is that I think you have posed a bad question.  For example,
> >> mutation is completely essential for evolution, so it is hard for me to
> >> imagine that ANYTHING is a more important factor in evolution.  I also
> >> think that evolution could not persist without the influence of a
> >> deterministic, adaptive sub-process like natural selection.  I don't
> >> know what it would mean to say that one essential component is more or
> >> less important than another.
> > 
> > I think it's meaningful. Is copious variation maintained in populations
> > by selection, always present to supply whatever selection needs, or
> > does the absence of variation and the appearance of new mutations
> > bias the direction of evolution? It could be argued that these
> > are the issues that define neo-Darwinism. Arlin Stolzfus' posts are
> > useful, for example:
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9lk050%24fbi%241%40darwin.ediacara.org
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9pftoa%24frd%241%40darwin.ediacara.org
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=91trfc%24orq%241%40darwin.ediacara.org
> 
> These are perfectly good questions, but I don't see how they help to
> distinguish the relative importances of essential factors.  I am adopting a
> functionalist stance, and I think that all functional systems require a
> balance between stochastic (creative) and deterministic (adaptive) factors.
> To me saying something like "selection is more important to evolution than
> mutation" is like saying that my circulatory system is more important to me
> than my digestive system.
> 
Evolution is what it is. It seems to me a mistake to say there is this
"thing", evolution, and ask what is most important to it the way we
might ask what is a critical path in a manufacturing process. If it
turns out in a particular case that there is a strong selective bias in
favour of some trait or gene, and that in another there is a lot of
drift and stochastic variation, then both of these cases are evolution.
So too is stabilising selection, punctuated equilibria, and all the
other facets of the dynamics of evolution. I fail to see how any of
these things can be "more important" than another simply because at some
point in any evolutionary process, it has happened. I must be missing
the point, though.

-- 
John Wilkins wilkins.id.au
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and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
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