DM>  ++> CHAOS ???: ..........a geometry of natural understanding ??? 
 DM>                 ..........another language of an artsy god ??? 
 DM>                 ..........an unknowable instinct of nature ??? 
 DM>                 ..........a right brain phantasy ??? 
I aint all that swift with math myself David. But I have studied 
statistics and programming, which is the way I usually think about 
it.  From what I can tell, quantum physics depends much more on 
probability, whereas newtonian math is calcuable. 
 
Chaos is bounded by order in fractles as well as reality and the 
rest of the universe.  When you setup a program and run it, much 
of the randomness cancels out, and you are left with enough order 
that you can see it.  When a program runs, the repetitive looping 
back is 'iteration'.  I dunno when Chaos began iterating; except 
it would be it was before the big bang.  As to why, I dunno that 
either, but it only had to start iterating once. 
 
 DM>   any piece (or even ALL) of reality can be so confined into 
 DM>   predictable windows and reduced to portable algorithms, seems to 
 DM>   suggest "SOMETHING". Assuming such developing theory reaches a 
 DM>   valid platform of workable acceptance, what would that "SOMETHING" 
 DM>   mean? If just another clever twit of nature (data/matter 
 DM> compression) 
 DM>   ...Why bother with so much space and knowability, unless nature (or 
 DM>   God) has limits? 
God and nature *does* have limits!  Why not? 
 DM>         Just thought I'd get your take on a growing area of inquiry 
 DM>   (especially since I'm so fuzzy on how to frame such "pattern poetry" 
nice term for it Dave. Reminds me that quantum physics formulae 
are now argued not on the basis of mathematic proof, but on the 
basis of how pretty they are.  Everyone loves an elegant solution. 
 
 DM>   into  an initial grasp). Since the fractal/chaos implications 
 DM>   are still working their way into serious science, the whys? and 
 DM>   what ifs tease the imagination. What happens to philosophy if all 
 DM>   reality can be projected or derived from math formulae? .....or do 
 DM>   we then have a "philosophy of chaos" that dwells to explore number 
 DM>   patterns? 
Pythagoras? he begins to look prescient... except that he missed 
the *necessity* for randomness and probability. 
 
 DM> Those who would write the "holodeck" programs are going 
 DM>       to be some pretty talented dudes....with some considerable debug 
 DM>       years ........!!! 
Well, hasn't God had 15 billion years to get the bugs out? As a 
matter of fact, I don't think She got them all.  But, She got a 
decent piece of code nonetheless, and a pretty convincing reality 
construction for her trouble.  as to why? to defeat boredom. 
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