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to: DAVID MARTORANA
from: RICHARD MEIC
date: 1997-12-23 08:42:00
subject: Uncertainty?

Salutatio David!
22-Dec-97, David Martorana wrote to Richard Meic
          Subject: Uncertainty?
  ++> Inspired by a Richard Meic to David Martorana ++> comment on
  "Science Stuff"
 DM>>> Saw that other item of interest, the first (successful) effort
 DM>>> at "quantum teleportation" which went over my head (most quick)
 DM>>> when the concept of measuring to sense the photon death of an
 DM>>> "entangled pair" tried to explain itself. A photon was made to
 DM>>> disappear at one point and reappear some yards away; and my
 DM>>> Science 101 failed me "BIG TIME". [University of Insbruck and
 DM>>> covered in the "Journal of Nature"]. That "quantum" stuff always
 DM>>> gets me confused -in not being anything for sure until after it
 DM>>> is measured ...at which time it no longer represents what it was
 DM>>> before it was measured...yea!
 RM>> The Uncertainty Principle rules out the possibility of
 RM>> teleportation. It is a waste of time and money.
 DM> NOTE: In some very basic layman-ish checking, I find the
 DM> "Uncertainty principle" ("UP") itself referred to as a theory?  In
 DM> the article, they mentioned the "UP" but said the measurement was
[...]
 DM> NOTE: The brief explanation of "UP" in my "Dictionary of Theories"
 DM> assumes erroneously that the above questioned data is already well
 DM> understood. !?, ...It is beginning to be difficult  _/##"\_
 DM> ...Dave ...to be smart in our techno-world, no? >>
David... a photon was created in one place and destroyed in another,
yes?  My skepticism comes from the "destroying" aspect of the original
photon.  All that was done was a duplication (or more accurately
"copying") of a photon.  The original was not "teleported", but merely
copied.  There is a difference, see?  If man "A" was said to have been
"teleported", what really happened?  Man "B" is created (a very accurate
copy) at position "C" and man "A" is then destroyed at position "D",...
right?  Man "B" can be called man "A", fore - in all intents and purposes
- man "B" has all man "A"'s memories, feelings, physical appearance,
etc... but is man "B" :*REALLY*: man "A"?  No, man "A" died... he was
killed, murdered in the "so called" teleportation.
So, is teleportation possible?  No.
Now, add this to the uncertainty that an :*EXACT*: copy of something can
be done.  Can one REALLY make an :*EXACT*: copy of anything?  No, fore
there _are_ differences, however subtle.
But thanks for the info, anyway. ;)
 Dicere...
 email address (vrmeic@spots.ab.ca)
Richard Meic
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