From: "Rich Gauszka" 

on a side note - the sinking of the Maine most probably was an accident
that the Hearst newspapers excited into an act of war - somewhat akin to
Cheney and wmd(s) in Iraq.

The attack on the USS Liberty WAS/IS an act of war that the ship's Captain
received the Congressional Medal of Honor for in defending his ship and
crew from the murderous and despicable act by the Israeli Defense Forces



"Mark"  wrote in message
news:44c6edd9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Yea, Remember the "Maine" too...  wrong, we're always conspiratorial, and we should always defer to the
> lame-brained BS that eminates from the UN, and we should get out our
> prayer rugs toot sweet>
>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:44c6e8fa$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> well lets see - unarmed observers in a well marked post ( for years )
>> were targeted and blown up. Sure has signs of deliberate for me. Just
>> like a US navy vessel in international waters that was machine gunned for
>> hours - the Israelis expressed 'regret' at that also.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>> news:44c6e636$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Nope, I'm saying if the UN was worth anything at all, they'd have done
>>> what they said they'd do lo so many years ago. They didn't, they
>>> *caused* this war, and if they suffer collateral damage because of it,
>>> it's their own fecklessness that brought it on. >> second that their position was deliberately targeted, but you seem to
>>> take them at their feckless word that it was -- why? Why believe them?,
>>> what have they done for the world lately, or ever?>
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:44c6e31e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> So I guess it's ok with you to purposely kill  observers 
from China,
>>>> Finland, Austria and Canada just as long as they were from the UN?
>>>>
>>>> Got to watch out for those 'lame' Red Cross vans now?
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060724/israel_fighti
ng_060725/20060725?hub=CTVNewsAt11
>>>>
>>>> But, Sunil Ram, a defence and security analyst, told CTV
Newsnet that
>>>> the Israelis had shelled the base at least 14 times before
bombing it
>>>> with what was clearly a guided bomb.
>>>>
>>>> UN posts like this are very well marked. The Israelis knew it was
>>>> there; it's been there for years.
>>>> "But then when the Indians tried to send a rescue
mission in there,
>>>> they then shelled the troops who were trying to get to the
post. So how
>>>> much more deliberate do you want it to be?"
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, vans marked with Red Crosses had come under fire.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>>> news:44c6de44$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>I can't think of any reason to believe anything the UN
says, especially
>>>>>Kofi. What are UN "observers" still doing
there anyway? Weren't those
>>>>>same lame "observers" that have been
twiddling their thumbs since 1978
>>>>>("interim" force indeed) supposed to be
disarming Hizzbullah starting 6
>>>>>years ago rather than "observing"? >>>>promised?, would we be where we are, would those 4
"observers" be
>>>>>dead?>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:44c6c3cc{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> The UN should have learned from the lessons of the
USS Liberty. The
>>>>>> Israelis don't like observers and will purposely target them
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1084162006
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AN ISRAELI air raid in south Lebanon killed four UN military
>>>>>> observers yesterday, in an attack that Kofi Annan,
the United Nations
>>>>>> secretary-general, said was "apparently
deliberate".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The four observers were part of the UN
peacekeeping mission, UN and
>>>>>> Lebanese officials said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking after yesterday's attack on the UN site,
Milos Strugar, a
>>>>>> spokesman for the UNIFIL peacekeeping force, said:
"One aerial bomb
>>>>>> directly impacted the building and shelter in the
base of the United
>>>>>> Nations Observer Group in Lebanon in the area of
Khiyam."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr Strugar said attacks had continued in the area
as rescuers
>>>>>> attempted to reach the wounded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "There were 14 other incidents of firing
close to this position in
>>>>>> the afternoon from the Israeli side, and the
firing continued during
>>>>>> the rescue operation," he added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a statement issued at UN headquarters in New
York, Mr Annan said:
>>>>>> "I am shocked and deeply distressed by the
apparently deliberate
>>>>>> targeting by Israeli defence forces of a UN
observer post in southern
>>>>>> Lebanon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "This co-ordinated artillery and aerial
attack on a long-established
>>>>>> and clearly marked UN post at Khiyam occurred
despite personal
>>>>>> assurances given to me by prime minister Ehud Olmert that UN
>>>>>> positions would be spared Israeli fire," Mr
Annan added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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