From: "Robert G Lewis" 

It would be nice to know this person's definition of Democracy. I'd guess
he only defines 'real' democracies as democracies that don't start wars.
Seems to be SOP for them, redefine after the fact.


"Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in message
news:44c09c58{at}w3.nls.net...
> A) It is darkly humorous how the neo-cons put this forward with such
> gusto given how they themselves have now contributed to proving the
> pseudo fact wrong
>
> e.g.
>
> http://jihadwatch.org/archives/009462.php
>
> "Because you see, democracies don't fight democracies. That's the truth.
> You can take that to the bank. In two thousand years, no democracy has
> ever declared war on a democracy. Oh, sure, I know some people think
> democracies were born yesterday, and there aren't enough examples, and
> besides, there was the American Civil War (but the south wasn't a
> democracy) and the Franco-Prussian War (well, they weren't real
> democracies), and World War I (ditto -- they onlly become "real"
> democracies when they stop declaring war on each other), and World War
> II doesn't count because Germany wasn't a real democracy when England
> and France declared war on it (Hitler was supported only by a handful of
> madmen, and would have been voted out right away). And about that
> Falklands War between Great Britiain and Argentina -- oh, that was too
> small to count as a war. And...well, you get my point. "Democracies
> never make war on democracies."
>
> So that's the beauty of our strategy. We just give them democracy --
> three elections in one year, whew! -- and let them get used to marching
> off to vote and purple-thumbs and billboards, and just add water, or
> blood -- and haven't those Iraqis been something the way they have been
> so eager and willing to fight as one, one nation under God, with liberty
> and justice for all, unless you are a Shi'a and the "all" includes the
> Sunnis, or a Sunni and the "all" includes the Shi'a, or either a Sunni
> or a Shi'a Arab and the "all" is supposed to include Kurds. Well, with
> some liberty, and some justice, for those who resemble me, or my family,
> or my tribe.
>
> And once we have transformed Iraq and then the whole Middle East, the
> Iraqis -- the Iraqi people of Iraq -- will be our alies, our iraqi
> allies. Now and forever. We will have achieved "Total victory" in the
> war on terror. "
>
> a UK (& the US) vs Finland in 1941....
>
> Us & the yanks were mates wi'Stalin & his boys so....Finland woz our
> enemy...
>
> but now.....a major serious example to the contrary & all part of the
> "War on Terror"...how ironic...
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/741318.html
>
> "Warplanes resumed strikes on targets across Lebanon on Friday as Israel
> warned hundreds of thousands of people to flee the south
"immediately,"
> preparing for a likely ground invasion to set up a deep buffer zone in
> southern Lebanon."
>
> &
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/741100.html
>
> "Lebanon's army, which so far has sat on the sidelines of the violence
> raging in the country, will fight an Israeli ground invasion, Defense
> Minister Elias Murr said on Al-Jazeera television Thursday.
>
> "The Lebanese army - and I stress - the Lebanese army will resist and
> defend and will prove that it is an army that deserves respect," he said.
>
> In most of the previous Israeli attacks, including in 1978 and the 1982
> invasion in which Beirut was occupied, the Lebanese army largely stayed
> out of the fighting. "
>
> So a tolerant multi-faith multi-ethnic democracy vs Israel....which they
> keep saying is a democracy if only a dictatorship of the majority style
> of democracy.
>
> I wonder...are there any other Neo-con myths left to expose? WMD in
> Iraq...nope, Welcomed as liberators...nope, Give em democracy & they'll
> vote for our people whether in iraq or Palestine...nope, they can pay
> for their own liberation...nope, democracies don't attack
> democracies....nope.....so is anything left from their fantasy?
>
>
> Adam

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