Andrew Cummins discussing "ORDER!"
with Todd Henson...
 TH>> Since we can see that in order for the universe to posess order it is
 TH>> necessary for the Origin to also posess order, what about
 TH>> consciousness? Consciousness is the greatest example of order in the
 TH>> universe, and so, since this universe contains the ability to sustain
 TH>> consciousness, the Origin must also have posessed consciousness.
 AC> Liberals don't believe in logic (or God, or Freedom, or Law, or anything
 AC> good).
Who are these "Liberals"?
 AC> People don't become atheists by following reason, so reason
 AC> isn't going to save them.
People are BORN atheists. You can only become a non-atheist, or stay an 
atheist, or return to atheism after being a non-atheist.
Atheists don't believe the religious idea that people need to be "saved" as 
they don't believe in anything to be "saved" by or from.
    Relatif Tuinn
... "Bother!" said Pooh as Han Solo asked for more money.
--- Spot 1.3a #1413
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