From: "Mark" 

Uh, let me think, NO. 

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in
message news:464e3c61$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> anyone believe the explanation by the judiciary?
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070518/wr_nm/security_britain_internet1_dc_2;_yl
t=AmZusM4.JGccPuoWtg2MRFNkM3wV
>
> A British judge who said he didn't really understand the term
"Web site"
> is fully computer literate and was merely trying to clarify complex
> evidence for the benefit of the court, the judiciary said on Friday.
>
> The remark by Judge Peter Openshaw during a trial on Wednesday made
> headlines around the world.
>
> "The trouble is I don't understand the language. I don't really understand
> what a Web site is," he told a London court during the trial of three men
> accused of inciting terrorism via the Internet.
>
> In a statement, the Judicial Communications Office did not dispute that
> Openshaw had been accurately quoted. But it said the remark by the judge,
> now in his fifth week presiding over the trial, had been taken out of
> context.
>
> "Trial judges always seek to ensure that everyone in court is able to
> follow all of the proceedings. They will regularly ask questions -- not
> for their own benefit -- but on behalf of all those following a case, in
> the interests of justice," it said.
>
> The judge's comment came as a prosecutor was questioning a witness about
> links posted to various sites by users of an alleged militant Islamist
> forum on the Web.
>
> "Mr Justice Openshaw was simply clarifying the evidence presented, in an
> easily understandable form for all those in court," the statement said.
>
> "Mr Justice Openshaw is entirely computer literate and indeed has taken
> notes on his own computer in court for many years," it added.
>
> Reuters stands by its story. As reported earlier, prosecutor Mark Ellison
> responded to the judge by explaining the terms 'Web site' and 'forum'
> during exchanges in which Openshaw acknowledged: "I haven't quite grasped
> the concepts."
>
> Anticipating further testimony from a computer expert, the judge later
> told Ellison: "Will you ask him to keep it simple, we've got to start from
> basics."
>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:464b48f5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> "I haven't quite grasped the concepts."
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070516/wr_nm/security_britain_internet_dc_1;_yl
t=AlOlJt5aHpltqGbjIhRxcUpkM3wV
>>
>> LONDON (Reuters) - A British judge admitted on Wednesday he was
>> struggling to cope with basic terms like "Web site" in
the trial of three
>> men accused of inciting terrorism via the Internet
>> Judge Peter Openshaw broke into the questioning of a witness about a Web
>> forum used by alleged Islamist radicals.
>>
>> "The trouble is I don't understand the language. I don't really
>> understand what a Web site is," he told a London court during the trial
>> of three men charged under anti-terrorism laws.
>>
>> Prosecutor Mark Ellison briefly set aside his questioning to explain the
>> terms "Web site" and "forum." An exchange
followed in which the judge
>> acknowledged: "I haven't quite grasped the concepts."
>>
>> Violent Islamist material posted on the Internet, including beheadings of
>> Western hostages, is central to the case.
>>
>> Concluding Wednesday's session and looking ahead to testimony on Thursday
>> by a computer expert, the judge told Ellison: "Will you ask him to keep
>> it simple, we've got to start from basics."
>>
>> Younes Tsouli, 23, Waseem Mughal, 24, and Tariq al-Daour, 21, deny a
>> range of charges under Britain's Terrorism Act, including inciting
>> another person to commit an act of terrorism "wholly or
partly" outside
>> Britain.
>>
>> Tsouli and Mughal also deny conspiracy to murder. Al-Daour has pleaded
>> not guilty to conspiring with others to defraud banks, credit card and
>> charge card companies.
>>
>> Prosecutors have told the jury at Woolwich Crown Court, east London, that
>> the defendants kept car-bomb-making manuals and videos of how to wire
>> suicide vests as part of a campaign to promote global jihad, or holy war.
>>
>> The trial continues.
>>
>>
>
>

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