From: Robert Comer 

>I'm not questioning you personally, but I have seen the above pov
>presented briefly in the media. My problem is that for everything I hear,
>there is an obvious follow-up question which the media I see never deals
>with.

I know.  For me it's the rewarding for illegal acts that make the most
sense. The employment picture is secondary. (h1b's have more of an impact
on my line of work)

>Sure, it is obvious even over here that a whole bunch of nudge-nudge has
>been going on over many years to allow entry for enough illegals to
>provide cheap workers. But if the 12 million were regularised in some way
>(say they became citizens), those people would, over a few years, STOP
>being available for cheap work exploitation. Wouldn't that be a good step
>towards not lowering general wages?

No, not even close, we've actually tried this before. (1986 was it, I think?)

The problem is that it's not just the 12 million we're talking about, it's
for those that follow.

>Actually, in formulating my question, I might have struck the answer. So
>long as there are 12 million illegals, there is a pool of workers in the
>US to be exploited for cheap work. If that pool were cleaned up, it is
>inevitable that millions more would enter to take advantage of the
>available habitat.

We have a winner. 

>Provisional conclusion: The US needs the pool of 12 million to be illegal
>so it is not easy for new illegals to join them?

I don't agree, but that's sure what businesses want.

--
Bob Comer



On Sat, 19 May 2007 13:29:12 +1000, John Beckett
 wrote:

>Robert Comer  wrote in message
>news::
>> For me it's the rewarding of illegal behavior, but I'm sure there are
>> some others that are prejudice like that.  Another thing the we don't
>> like is that it's obviously a play by big business to hire cheaper
>> workers, thus putting both Americans out of work and lowering the
>> wages of everyone else.
>
>I'm not questioning you personally, but I have seen the above pov
>presented briefly in the media. My problem is that for everything I hear,
>there is an obvious follow-up question which the media I see never deals
>with.
>
>Sure, it is obvious even over here that a whole bunch of nudge-nudge has
>been going on over many years to allow entry for enough illegals to
>provide cheap workers. But if the 12 million were regularised in some way
>(say they became citizens), those people would, over a few years, STOP
>being available for cheap work exploitation. Wouldn't that be a good step
>towards not lowering general wages?
>
>Actually, in formulating my question, I might have struck the answer. So
>long as there are 12 million illegals, there is a pool of workers in the
>US to be exploited for cheap work. If that pool were cleaned up, it is
>inevitable that millions more would enter to take advantage of the
>available habitat.
>
>Provisional conclusion: The US needs the pool of 12 million to be illegal
>so it is not easy for new illegals to join them?
>
>John

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