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From: Robert Comer >I don't think any scientist expects to find a "perfect theory" - one that >is 100% accurate in all places and all times, from the tiniest subatomic >particle, up to galaxies and beyond. That's what they're looking for with the Unified Field theory. But anyway, I decided not to be a scientist, so I have a bit more leeway in what I want. >It is known that special relativity has definite limits, beyond which it >is wrong. So it is "just a theory". But so is everything else! Yep! Theories get supplanted by better theories is all. I think our problem here is you place to much emphases in my saying it's "just a theory". Just a theory is all we can have in a lot of cases, there's nothing wrong with it being theory in my eyes, it explains things to the best of our ability now and that's all we can do. >This thread is based on three out of ten Republican Presidential >candidates declaring that they don't believe in the theory of evolution. >In these dangerous times, I think it is worth insisting on a little rigour >where one can. You cannot trample on someone's religious beliefs, that's not the way this country works. If you don't like what they say, you don't vote for them. >We started by agreeing that special relativity was a >theory, then you seemed to think it somehow profound to note that it was >"just a theory", as if it was therefore ok for you to not bother working >out whether your claim about E=mc^2 and nuclear explosions was correct. Not correct, it's you that seemed fixated on "just a theory" As I said about, just a theory is the best we can do. (And I was correct in what I said about E=MC2.) -- Bob Comer On Fri, 18 May 2007 20:41:19 +1000, John Beckett wrote: >Robert Comer wrote in message >news:: >> >The theory of special relativity is an attempt to describe how things work >> >in general - here, there and everywhere. >> >> The key here is attempt, and it will continue to be a theory until it >> does describe how things work, here, there, and everywhere. > >I don't think any scientist expects to find a "perfect theory" - one that >is 100% accurate in all places and all times, from the tiniest subatomic >particle, up to galaxies and beyond. > >Certainly there is no such animal in current knowledge (although I suppose >the laws of thermodynamics might be thought to qualify). > >It is known that special relativity has definite limits, beyond which it >is wrong. So it is "just a theory". But so is everything else! > >This thread is based on three out of ten Republican Presidential >candidates declaring that they don't believe in the theory of evolution. >In these dangerous times, I think it is worth insisting on a little rigour >where one can. We started by agreeing that special relativity was a >theory, then you seemed to think it somehow profound to note that it was >"just a theory", as if it was therefore ok for you to not bother working >out whether your claim about E=mc^2 and nuclear explosions was correct. > >Special relativity is one of the most spectacularly successful theories of >all time, and it will remain so despite its limitations. > >It's quite reasonable to say it's just a theory that Oswald shot Kennedy. >Everything we know about that case could be wrong. > >However, a theory like special relativity is completely different - it >will never be wrong (given the absence of nearby extreme gravity). > >John --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5* Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45) SEEN-BY: 633/267 5030/786 @PATH: 379/45 1 633/267 |
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