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to: John Beckett
from: Gary Britt
date: 2007-05-18 10:27:14
subject: Re: Bush Justice preferred hirings

From: Gary Britt 

1.  Because people like me don't trust either the democrats or the
republicans to really secure the border and stop the flow of illegal
immigrants, these immigration bills are just seen as the beginning of
continuing amnesty deals for 10's of millions of more illegal aliens next
year and every year after this reform.  People like me do not trust the
politicians of either party to build the fences, fund the border patrol,
and put military if necessary on the border to stop the flood of illegal
aliens into the country.  More illegal aliens cross the border every month
than the entire size of the military presence in Iraq.  That's an invasion
to people like me.

2.  Therefore people like me say first show us that illegal crossings at
the border have been reduced by MORE than 90% BEFORE you even start talking
to us about what to do with the people already here.

3.  Immigration reform isn't granting citizenship and voting rights just to
12 million illegals.  Its really 20 or 24 million illegals by some counts
and when the family members are added its granting citizenship and voting
rights to not 12 to 24 million illegals its granting voting and citizenship
rights to 120 Million illegals and their families over the next 10 to 20
years.  That represents a sudden increase of 1/3 of the population. 
Illegal immigrants can be brought out of the shadows and given legal status
without granting them citizenship ahead of the normal legal process for
applying for citizenship.

4. Last on the list would be concerns that we are rewarding law breaking
with citizenship, but that concern is magnified by the belief that the
border will never be secured and we will forever be rewarding continued law
breaking with citizenship.  Similarly, if they were to first really secure
the border and show a *real* and demonstrated reduction in illegal
crossings by over 90% then this concern would be diminished in importance.

5.  If your only view of America is from PBS then you aren't really getting
anything but a highly skewed left wing view that is held only by a minority
of the population.  Fox News Channel would be far more representative of
the views held by the majority of the population on this and most (perhaps
not all) other matters actually.


Gary

John Beckett wrote:
> Gary Britt  wrote in message
> news::
>> I called McConnell's office today and told them if they didn't stop this
>> bill I would never vote republican again for the rest of my life, and I
>> definitely mean it.
>
> This is fascinating for me - a puzzled part-time viewer of US PBS TV.
>
> Briefly, what is your problem with "immigration reform"?
>
> I understand that some people who object to "reform" hate the idea of
> rewarding illegal behaviour. Is that really what they believe? Or do they
> hate the idea of 12 million hispanics + extended families joining the US,
> but feel it's a bit un-PC to say so?
>
> I'm really not trolling here! Honestly, I can't understand the objections.
>
> In fairness, I must admit that I would be unhappy with the prospect of 12
> million unscreened people getting citizenship. I would be worried about
> disease and maybe other stuff. But not having reform doesn't resolve that.
>
> John
>

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