CG> It seems overly ambitious to ask people to eliminate wasteful practices
 CG> overnight; ecological management is a process, not an act.
I agree (and like your statement, so I hope you won't mind if I "adopt" it  

 CG> However, (OPINION mode locked on) ...
(I have one of those   :)
 CG> In summary, the purpose of this exercise is to get people thinking. The 
key
 CG> to using materials over and over again is that vital second use. Without 
the
 CG> second use, there can be no third or fourth use.
Christopher, it seems ashamed that you should live so far away from me... You 
may be able to help relieve me of my 'pack-rat' label.   It always makes 
me smile, tho. When my friends need something (or an idea, as well as the 
'stuff' to make it!  :), who do you suppose they call 
cheers,
WL Sakowski
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