Hello Phil.

16 Mar 03 14:59, you wrote to Bob Short:

 PS> Myself and others told you as much when it was first envisioned. I
 PS> don't blame you for trying, human nature dictates that those in power
 PS> will not /willingly/ give up such power. It's a hard lesson to learn,
 PS> join the crowd, some of us learned this lesson long ago in Fidonet.
 PS> :(

I've stated that I didn't think the proposal would fly myself, but I don't
see it as any sort of "conspiracy", or an attempt to hold onto
"power", as you put it. IMO, the simple fact of the matter is
that most RC's in this network, and the vast majority of members of this
network simply don't see anything wrong with policy as it is, and so don't
see any reason to change it. Most sysops in fact couldn't care less about
policy, so long as their echomail flows regularly and they aren't hassled
too much.

 BS>> Personally, I have always though it incumbant upon the IC to
 BS>> press the issue, and /require/ responses from the RC (once they
 BS>> were informed of such a proposal).  If he has done so, he has
 BS>> fialed to relay results here (or elsewhere) AFAIK.

 PS> Don't forget Ward is at the top of the power chain. He fought hard and
 PS> long to get to his position, as evidenced by his constant attacks on
 PS> Satti to get there years ago. He not going to seriously take a step in
 PS> the direction of giving /his/ power to the sysops, he fought to get it
 PS> and won't willingly give it up. Human nature, unfortunately for many
 PS> of the Fidonet sysop.

It seemed to me that Ward was very willing to consider policy change,
provided the majority of RC's stood up and said that they supported it.
That support, outside of Z1, has not been forthcoming, so Ward is obligated
to respect the will of the majority, despite the wishes of the RC's of this
zone.

 BS>> I've not been around lately, so can't coment on any current
 BS>> events, but my understanding is that we're as far on this as when
 BS>> we first started.  :(

 PS> Some things will never change, even if they should.  :(

The will of the majority must be respected. If the majority don't want a
change in policy, we can't force it upon them. OTOH, the majority in /this/
zone /do/ seem to want a change in policy, so as I have said right from the
start, our energies in this zone would be put to far better use in creating
a zonal policy.


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