From: John Beckett 

"Geo."  wrote in message
news::
> > I'm not sure if you noticed a few of my posts here a year or so ago, when
> > we had a session on various things, including evolution. I am
> > definitely a mechanist. To me, humans are "just"
machines whose workings
> > can be explained by our current understanding of physics, with no magic
> > required. I failed miserably in my attempts to convert Geo et al to this
> > view.
>
> I don't remember you failing at that. What was my disagreement?

Would you like the long version or the short version? Let's try short:

I was saying that it is quite likely that we will not need any more
scientific breakthrougs to fully understand all aspects of the human,
including the mind. Consciousness results from a computer model (in the
brain) that is sufficiently complete to include itself.

I don't want to put words into your mouth, but I think you were saying that
it is possible (likely?) that there is some extra feature needed to explain
how the brain works. The feature was (I think you were saying), likely to
need a new type of science (new in the way that relativity was new, or
quantum mechanics was new). ISTR the word "dimension" being used.

John

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