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echo: adhd
to: JANE KELLEY
from: BOB MOYLAN
date: 1996-12-14 11:18:00
subject: Adhd....76

Jane Kelley On (13 Dec 96) was overheard to say to Mark Probert
 JK> Then stick to them.  The FACTS are, as amply demonstrated by doctors
 JK> who are specialists in addiction and related fields, that children and
 JK> others with ADHD are from families with a history of alcoholism in a
 JK> certain percentage of cases.
 JK> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Amply demonstrated as reported where? What percentage of cases?
 Are these doctors looking perhaps at children with FAS or FAE?  These
 children do indeed have attentional problems but the primary
 diagnosis is not ADD/ADHD it is FAE or FAS.
 JK> It has been my experience as a Registered Nurse that not all doctors
 JK> will ask the proper questions on an intake.
 "Proper" in whose view, other than yours?  Even if they were asking
 your proper questions and the answers didn't support your agenda you
 wouldn't accept them so what's your point?
 JK> I am horrified when I see intakes done by psychiatrists and mental
 JK> health case workers which do not get a complete family history of
 JK> mental and emotional problems back to the grandparent generation.
 What you are saying then is that if my grandmother suffered from
 post-partum depression that had some effect on my son having ADHD? Or
 that my grandfather boozed it up while in France during WWI that also
 has some effect on my son having ADHD?  What about the family history
 that presents with NO mental or emotional problems going back 3
 generations?  How then do you explain ADD/ADHD.  Never mind.. you
 can't.
 JK> There is no way in hell that they are going to know if the patient
 JK> is basically a genetic alcoholic who should  never be medicated with
 JK> certain drugs!
 That doesn't have anything to do with ADD/ADHD.  You've been told
 that over and over and you keep harping on alcoholism as if that were
 THE PRIME cause of every human frailty know to man.
 JK> I keep waiting for the first malpractice suit over this lack of
 JK> medical knowledge and ethics.  Now that we know that most mental and
 JK> emotional illnesses are related to brain chemistry,
 This isn't exactly "new" news to the rest of us...maybe you are just
 finding it out.
 JK> that day is fast approaching when a whopper of a malpractice suit
 JK> is going to be brought by some parent or patents who have a home
 JK> computer and Netscape.
 Or a shyster lawyer who reads your stuff, believes it and sees an
 opportunity for a fast buck.
 JK> MP>JK>And that just isn't the case at all.  Once again, PKU is not the
 JK> MP>JK>fault of a faulty diet.  It is genetic in origin, but.....a
 JK> remedial MP>JK>diet will prevent the worst of the problems it can
 JK> cause.
 JK> MP>True, for PKU )I like that rhyme). Not true for ADHD. There is no
 JK> MP>logical connection between the two. PKU is not the result of a
 JK> faulty diet, but is involved in metabolism. ADHD has nothing to do
 JK> MP> with metabolism.
 JK> Sorry, your knowledge on this is a few years behind the times.  I
 JK> suggest that you find some medical journals in the addiction field
 JK> such as the ones for adolescent counselors and read up on what is know
 JK> today. The book, "OVERLOAD", by David Miller and Kenneth Blum, Ph.D.
 JK> is about Attention Deficit Disorder and the Addictive Brain.
 Well Mark's knowledge, even if a "few years behind the times" (which
 it is not) is better than your utter lack of knowledge regarding
 ADD/ADHD.
 Haven't you discovered the conferences on alcoholism...maybe you'd
 have more credibility there.
... I see that you list "reality" as your previous address.
--- PPoint 2.02
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